Turning back time

[DJoel]

All right. I've been thinking about... what if I had a sort of magic clock or something that I could turn back time with?

Would I dare to use it then... 'Cause I don't think you can "remember the future". I mean, if I turn back time, I wouldn't remember that I had done that. And then I would probably turn back time again, at the same time I did it last time. And then again... and again... And me, and everything else would be stuck in some kind of "time trap" where the same thing happens over and over.

Of course, noone would notice, cause noone would remember the future, but it's still kind of scary. What if you never could live your life fully :S And what if this actually is happening now, time turning back over and over. Maybe I've written this message... like 400 times by now? It doesn't hurt me, since I don't know but... what if?

[Kiro51]

Re: Turning back time

Magic clocks don't exist...


But if you find one, don't use it. That's all. There won't be a "time trap"...


And well, if one day there is a "time trap" or "time loop", we wouldn't notice it, so this is pointless to speak about it =)

[jamuko]

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This is pretty much off-topic, and I'm sorry since it is CT, but it just freaked me the heck out so I'm posting it.

I'm at my friend's house, and she was showing me this book called "Turn Back Time" and telling me I should read it. The name reminded me of that line in Komm Susser Todd, "I wish that I could turn back time"... so I was singing it. As I was doing this, I clicked my bookmark for FFR forums for the first time today, and the first thing I see is "Turning back time" in the most recent posts column.

Wtf >_>

Sorry.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Turning back time

You can turn back time! But not in that way.

In this universe, there is time, and for every moment of time, particles will be at some place. To go back through time, what you must do is bring all those particles to the position of that moment in time and you'll have technically, gone back in time. =\

I hope that makes sense. It's just my take on it.

~Tsugomaru

[RandomPscho]

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Tsugo, and so far we do not have the advanced technology needed to do so.

[Kekiz]

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You can turn back time! But not in that way.

In this universe, there is time, and for every moment of time, particles will be at some place. To go back through time, what you must do is bring all those particles to the position of that moment in time and you'll have technically, gone back in time. =\

I hope that makes sense. It's just my take on it.

~Tsugomaru

That is complete bull**** but ok.
Time isnt something that is a particle. Its just a concept. You cant travel through time it doesnt really exsist.

[Sneakyfeet]

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You cant travel through time it doesnt really exsist.

This thread is going to get complicated now.

[Maid]

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That is complete bull**** but ok.
Time isnt something that is a particle. Its just a concept. You cant travel through time it doesnt really exsist.

Let us all bow to Kekiz the master of stating **** out of his ass!

[tsugomaru]

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Right...

I never said that time was a particle. For every moment, there will be particles around. You are made up of particles! So for that moment of time, each and every particle will be at a certain spot and to move back to that moment, you need to move the particles to that certain spot.

~Tsugomaru

[RandomPscho]

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Those particles would also include everything in the brain and the way everything was, so nobody would remember and it would be exactly the same as going back in time.

[tsugomaru]

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Those particles would also include everything in the brain and the way everything was, so nobody would remember and it would be exactly the same as going back in time.

Yep, it's all part of the deal. The question is then, what is the point? Why would you want to travel back through time, at all? And if there was a method of remembering your mission (presuming that you are traveling back through time to change something), how would you do it?

~Tsugomaru

[Cavernio]

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Well, most fiction doesn't involve the particular condundrum you speak of, but I think that that's because when people are turned back in time in fiction, its only time itself which the people travel through, and it is somehow disconnected from material world, in that the matter which the person is made of doesn't revert, and the person and objects remain moving forward in time, even as they travel backwards. And this is why there're multiples of 1 person when they travel back in time.
I guess that the difference between these 2 ideas of what happens if time travel were to occur, between usual sci-fi, and what DJoel said, is if time and matter can exist independantly of each other. If it can, then someone can travel back without having themselves revert to their previous selves. I think. I've never really thought about this before.

Ohhh, there's a pretty damned good movie out there about some guys who make a time machine. I've only seen it once, and, well, I found it a little hard to follow, but I think I'm gonna watch it again at some point and notice things that weren't there before. Its cool, because you're not quite sure which iteration of time that comes up appears. In any case, the movie is called Primer, and here's one of the first links that I found for it. Rent it or something, it's a good movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/

[Kekiz]

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Let us all bow to Kekiz the master of stating **** out of his ass!

I am just that good.

[DJoel]

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Well... you probably can't time travel, 'cause if someone ever discovers a method of doing this in the future and travels back in time, then he would've already been here right? And then we would know that a time traveling machine or something will be discovered in the future. But if it ever is going to be discovered, maybe they were smart enough to not let anyone know.

[Cavernio]

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I think that learning to travel into the future would be more plausible, even though I think time travel itself is not really plausible. All you'd have to do is find a way to slow down time for a certain section of space.