Saddam's Execution

[Dragula219]

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He's dead now, can't change that. The real question is, What do we do with his corpse?

I'm Sticking with the "Freedom fry" idea.

We should put him in an industrial size country deep frier, and chop him up into little Saddam "Freedom fries" to commemorate our victory over TERRORISM!

I believe the greatest president of the United States (Obviously George W. Bush) should eat the first one, because he has led America to glorious Victory that we will all remember as the most meaningful war in the history of the USA.

[Bahamut-X]

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And I just think killing someone is wrong, doesnt murdering a murderer, make us murderers too? And it makes me pretty sick to see that theres a smile next to this post. Why is it ever good that someones dead... I dont doubt that Saddam was an evil man, but i still think executing him is wrong.

This always strikes me as an ignorant statement. I don't like it when people use the "if we murder him doesn't that make us murderes too?" statement. You have to dig a little deeper. Sure, we're both killing someone, but what are each person's intentions? Usually when someone commits a murder it's unjustified and they do it for the wrong reasons (like anger, revenge, or in Saddam's case he was just mad with power and could kill anyone without much reason for doing so). Us killing Saddam is different. We HAVE a reason to justify his hanging, which is what separates us from other murderers. We are NOT the same as a traditional murderer. This applies to my feelings on Euthanasia as well.

No one flame me for this it's just my opinion.

[sherbtail]

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I actually semi-support/confused about Euthanasia, I would support it, but legalising it might just cause too many problems as in how do you decide whether someone is in the right frame of mind to decide whether they want to do or not... if you understand. I havent explained it very well...

But anyway, You say murderers kill due to anger or revenge... isn't that exactly what we've just done.
I was glad to hear Margeret Becketts (uk foreign secretary) statement about it, reitterating that the UK does not support the death penalty in the UK or anywhere in the world.

Understand im not trying to downplay his evilness, I just don't think making him a martyr is going to solve anything

[Tk_revolutionBEtA]

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yes i would have to agree with bahamut-x there on the point that our killing is justified
and for those religious people that think you would go to hell even when killing for a justified reason sometimes you have to think beyond the plain and simple fact that you are killing and also rmember that God will always forgive you and welcome you into his kingdom with open arms if you truly believe in him
tho i need to work on some of that stuff XD

[Bahamut-X]

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But anyway, You say murderers kill due to anger or revenge... isn't that exactly what we've just done.

Perhaps anger/revenge aren't the right words, but you understand what I'm trying to say. It's all about justification.

[8Shade8]

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The possibility he may not be dead is still there. He was supposedly taken to a discreet location to be hanged, but what if the CIA was not finished with him. There are still questions that they may need answered. I took my MOS with the Army because I still think that other people have information. The Iraq government has plotted to develop antrax, nerve gasses, and nuclear weapons for over a decade now. Who is to say they haven't. Sure no one has told us nothing has been found, but what would the reaction of the American people be if that type of information was released. Not only Americans, but think if that information was realeased to surrounding countries.

I feel that the real war is in intelligence. I am about to be trained in Arabic and Interrogation. I hope that they send me to Iraq. There is information that still needs to be discovered. There are extremeists in that country that paint pictures of the statue of liberty with a skull for a face and call us death. They are more than motivated to build weapons. I am not just talking about Iraq anymore either. Look at Iran. We are hated by them, and ALL of them justify killing people with there religion. I think they do have weapons over there. Have any of you seen videos of the THOUSANDS of Iranians who flock their streets just to chant "Death to America, Death to England"? It is insane. Saddam may not have been Iranian, but he was just as extreme.

And I do not know if any of you know this, but 9/11 was caused by a muslim man named Muhammed, who became a U.S. troop awhile back. He then went to Iraq and trained people over there to fly our planes and use our weapons (he is the one who trained the people who fight us over there). He then planned (I do not remember if it was Osama he worked with or Saddam) the attack on us. I saw it on the discovery channed. They show it every few weeks for those that are interested. Just go search discovery for shows on 9/11.

[purebloodtexan]

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please dont say thats a video of saddams execution...and if it is can it be removed...

No, it's not the execution video.

wow they're finally executing him
that' kind of stupid tho because he had nothing to do with 9/11 and the gov't sux anyways b/c Bush is wasting all of our money trying to find people we don't even know are responsible
we can also thank the idiotic british gov't for creating what we know as Iraq in the first place

Like I stated above, Bush saw Saddam as a general threat, and decided "better safe than sorry". He apparently didn't see this whole Middle Eastern outbreak coming.

By the way, please use periods between sentences.

[sherbtail]

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No, it's not the execution video.

ok sorry, its just that guy was asking for it to be posted earlier, so i jumped to conclusions as i do

8shade8, reading your post, it sounds like you wouldnt be opposing a war in Iran after we're done in Iraq, I think this probably would've happened if Iraq had gone better though there is little chance of the public being behind it now.

And bahamut, I still dont see why his killing was justified, yeh he killed people, and was evil, but George Bush has killed thousands by invading Iraq, and he supports Guantanemo Bay where torture is used. Perhaps he should be put in an unfair, biased trial like Saddam...
Do you agree with the death penalty in America as well then or just in extreme cases such as now?

[Afrobean]

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Perhaps anger/revenge aren't the right words, but you understand what I'm trying to say. It's all about justification.

Vengence?

Oh and I forgot about assisted suicide. I am totally for that. That's the only kind of killing that I believe is ok.

And to the person who brought up religion to the "all killing is bad" arguement: No. Regardless of any religious implications, killing is immoral. If you do not believe killing is immoral, you are amoral and any of your statements on topics of immoral matter are pretty much nullified.

[fido123]

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Honestly doing anything with Saddam is dumb...What threat does he have to North America or anywhere else with the middle east. "NOT OIL OMFG NO MY ****ING OIL" Thats about what Gerge Bush probbly thought. There's a Genoside giong on in Chaud (I think Chaud) and 2 guys who want to blow up the U.S. being Kim Jong Il and that iranian dictator. Saddam has no threat. I know the Genoside has nothing to do with North America but it would be good if the U.S. helped them.

[MainSt_Popcorn]

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I think it's good, militarism is bad.

[purebloodtexan]

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Honestly doing anything with Saddam is dumb...What threat does he have to North America or anywhere else with the middle east. "NOT OIL OMFG NO MY ****ING OIL" Thats about what Gerge Bush probbly thought. There's a Genoside giong on in Chaud (I think Chaud) and 2 guys who want to blow up the U.S. being Kim Jong Il and that iranian dictator. Saddam has no threat. I know the Genoside has nothing to do with North America but it would be good if the U.S. helped them.

Uh, no, that's not what he thought. Do you remember any of the crap about WMD's?

And to the person who brought up religion to the "all killing is bad" arguement: No. Regardless of any religious implications, killing is immoral. If you do not believe killing is immoral, you are amoral and any of your statements on topics of immoral matter are pretty much nullified.

If he's a danger to the general pubic, then yes, kill him. It was in fact the Mesopatamians (Need to spell-check that) that came up with the "eye for an eye" system. Take long-term serial killers for example.

Speaking of the "eye for an eye" system, what did the Mesos do when someone got raped?

[darkdieuguerre]

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Ever since Saddam lost power, he couldn't regain power. The US has been in Iraq and if he tried to regain power, he would've been removed as quickly as possible. Saddam isn't really much of a threat, unlike the Iranians and the North Koreans, considering they are developing nuclear weapons that can be used against us, yet we're worried that Saddam will regain power. Are our priorities messed up?

[purebloodtexan]

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Ever since Saddam lost power, he couldn't regain power. The US has been in Iraq and if he tried to regain power, he would've been removed as quickly as possible. Saddam isn't really much of a threat, unlike the Iranians and the North Koreans, considering they are developing nuclear weapons that can be used against us, yet we're worried that Saddam will regain power. Are our priorities messed up?

Bush still probably thought "better safe than sorry". Also, like I posted above (Although you posted right after me, I don't blame you), Bush thought that Saddam had WMD's

[Afrobean]

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Uh, no, that's not what he thought. Do you remember any of the crap about WMD's?

Actually, the reason for the war was doublethinked many times over.

First, it was "Iraq is tied to Al Quaeda" (meaning that Iraq helped the terrorists with 9/11). When that wasn't accepted so well, it became "well... they have weapons of mass destruction." When that fell apart, after we invaded them and found nothing, it became "we're liberating them from dictatorship."