Is nothing something?

[super kid]

Re: Is nothing something?

I think if you have something its Physically so if you have nothing you dont have it Physically therefore its nothing.

[xFlamenx]

Re: Is nothing something?

well the thing is if you have something then its something, and if you 'have' nothing then there is the law of owning nothing. nothing is something i would say cause you dont say 'i do not have nothing' you say i 'have' nothing or i dont have anything.

[Afrobean]

Re: Is nothing something?

I think what you're getting at is the difference between a value of null and a value of 0.

Having a value of zero is definitely much different than "nothing". I'm not sure how best to explain it... I understand it in my own mind, but I seem to be unable to verablize an explanation of it. Maybe someone else with a stronger grasp of the concept will come in and elaborate.

EDIT: this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_%28mathematics%29

[AeonShadow]

Re: Is nothing something?

In my calculations nothing is something, examine the word, it does have an empty filling to it.

[raver_408]

Re: Is nothing something?

These are the questions that keep me up at night.
XD

[aperson]

Re: Is nothing something?

I think what you're getting at is the difference between a value of null and a value of 0.

Having a value of zero is definitely much different than "nothing". I'm not sure how best to explain it... I understand it in my own mind, but I seem to be unable to verablize an explanation of it. Maybe someone else with a stronger grasp of the concept will come in and elaborate.

EDIT: this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_%28mathematics%29

A better way to think about it is to have the empty set, Ø, and the set which contains the empty set, {Ø} . Ø is empty, however {Ø} is not empty. Similarly, having nothing means that the set of whatever you have is Ø. However, when you describe the state of having nothing you are talking about {Ø}.

[Meteor858]

Re: Is nothing something?

its odd that we should have to question our world to such a point that we would come to questions like this?
this argument is too complex and is making my brain hurt...

i like to keep it simple

lets just say that there are no cookies left... nothing is in the jar

there are still cookies there... you got cookies in the jar (until i eat them)

[Kilgamayan]

Re: Is nothing something?

this argument is too complex and is making my brain hurt...

i like to keep it simple

This is a good sign that you probably shouldn't be in CT.

So is your attempt at using HTML in your sig.

[Meteor858]

Re: Is nothing something?

<.< im sorry that my siggy doesnt work the way it should...

anyways my head hurt because i had just been hit in the head with a cat... (dont ask) and i felt like putting that in there

though i do like to keep this argument in specific as simple as i can get because it really is almost impossible to provide proof on either side of the discussion

[paperflowers11]

Re: Is nothing something?

I think there is a difference between nothing mathematacially (sp? Hate that word...), astrophyically, and philosophically.
Is there a difference between having nothing and not having anything? o.O It's so vauge. I think maybe the catch on HAVING nothing and therefore needing to have something to...have, is simply an issue with the language and not the concept.

[Maid]

Re: Is nothing something?

'No'thing' is something to describe the state of not having, whatever.

So the way I look at nothing as a void filling descriptive. It makes sense to me, hope it does to some of you as well.

[Cj_leonine]

Re: Is nothing something?

I agree with maid in a way. Nothing to me is something that is unthinkable, unimaginable and ineffable.

In a way that's contadicting itself.
-.-

[phyro989]

Re: Is nothing something?

Physical obejects are only the ties to this earth. By have something you have nothing. But if you have nothing you have everything.

[foolishwun]

Re: Is nothing something?

nothing is not something
lets say that visible text is the only tangible thing in this post:

<-----the arrow is poining at nothing
the arrow is pointing at somthing----->#####


what the word "nothing" represents is simply not somthing in every single way
to actually think about it though you would have to imagine the meaning of the word "nothing" as somthing
even though nothing is nothing.
...get it?

[Maid]

Re: Is nothing something?

nothing is not something
lets say that visible text is the only tangible thing in this post:

<-----the arrow is poining at nothing
the arrow is pointing at somthing----->#####


what the word "nothing" represents is simply not somthing in every single way
to actually think about it though you would have to imagine the meaning of the word "nothing" as somthing
even though nothing is nothing.
...get it?

You don't make that much sense, in fact you have stated that nothing is something. Just read your own post. haha