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  • lord_carbo
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 6222

    #31
    Re: Prohibition.

    Originally posted by Mystik3345
    I think marijuana should be legalized but not any other drugs. Marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, it was merely scapegoated as a reason for the increase in crime rates way back in the day. Other drugs like crack/cocaine, heroine, meth, should stay illegal because they are highly addictive and really do destroy your life fast. Trust me, a friend of my dads became addicted to crack and within 5 years his heart stopped working almost completely, and he died in his 40's. Marijuana however is better for you than cigarettes. It doesn't cause lung cancer though it does still destroy the lungs because of the smoke, but it is for the most part not addictive (i've never heard of anyone addicted to marijuana), yet cigarettes are highly addictive and cause cancer. Did you know marijuana actually supresses the gene we believe to cause cancer?
    Everything I was going to say was summed up perfectly in this post, down to the details.
    last.fm

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    • dragonschild
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2005
      • 40

      #32
      Re: Prohibition.

      Originally posted by ImEric12
      Also... I wanna try acid... But acid should never ever be legalized. A bad trip can result in suicide, not the most desirable effect. OD on it is impossible, though.
      "The LD50 (dose at which 50% of administrations are fatal) of LSD is approximately 55mg/KG in mice. Assuming that the human body is reasonably similar in metabolism, that means that in order to kill an average human weighing 70KG (~155lb), they would have to ingest 3,850mg of LSD to die half of the time." LD50 being lethal dosage for over half the administrations.

      But lsd is measured in micrograms, so 12,000ug's would be more appropriate.

      Be careful with lsd, or any psychedelic man, they can mess your mind up. If you are going to do it, do not drive. Remember that you aren't going to die if you start having a bad trip. Just be careful, psychedelics are crazy.
      Last edited by dragonschild; 12-10-2006, 06:33 PM.

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      • ImEric12
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2004
        • 1952

        #33
        Re: Prohibition.

        Yeah, I know. I have a LOT of preparation to do before I ever even THINK of trying it. I've done a lot of research on the matter.

        Hmm. Maybe I was wrong about the overdose thing.. but it seems like I remember reading that it's REALLY hard to overdose on, or that no human had ever done it before.

        Edit: "A typical single dose of LSD is between 100 and 500 micrograms, an amount roughly equal to one-tenth the mass of a grain of sand. Threshold effects can be felt with as little as 20 micrograms[1] but most users may prefer to take larger doses.[2]"

        You'd have to go pretty frickin' frazy on LSD to overdoes. Even a large does is only 500µg, meaning it'd take 24 doses to OD.
        Last edited by ImEric12; 12-10-2006, 07:06 PM.

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        • MagicCarpetRide
          Skware One
          • Jun 2006
          • 1125

          #34
          Re: Prohibition.

          I hear you have to smoke your own body weight to OD Haha if i could smoke 1 ounce thatd be sweet.



          Well (In my opinion) Alcohol is harder for teens my age to get than marijuana, If i want to get marijuana I call up a pal down the street, If i want to get alcohol it is a much bigger process. Marijuana should be legalized if it is strill legal to "grow your own" but if they start only selling from companies and stuff like alcohol is ,or from the government I'll still be growing my own and that will still be illegal. So either way, legal or illegal, I'll still be blazing. No matter what the law says. I don't care if it's legal or not.

          But by the time i am 18 i would like to legally be able to smoke in my basement. Who am i hurting besides myself?

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          • korny
            It's Saint Pepsi bitch
            • May 2004
            • 4385

            #35
            Re: Prohibition.

            overdosing on LSD rofl. that would be so hard to do

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            • dragonschild
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2005
              • 40

              #36
              Re: Prohibition.

              I agree with the alcohol being a much longer process when i was younger. I would estimate that about 45% of people at my school smoke, and if you add alcohol use in their it would increase greatly.

              I think that psilocybin mushrooms should be legal though. They are still legal throughout Europe I believe, and wouldn't be a big problem at all. There are not many people who even know much about them.

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              • Anticrombie0909
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2003
                • 4683

                #37
                Re: Prohibition.

                A Crusade of Social Degradation:

                An Essay Detailing the Efforts of Those who Would Degrade the Moral Fabric and Physical Wellbeing of Society by Allowing to the Public Access to Illicit and Harmful Chemicals, Including Contradictory Evidence and Arguments Presented Herein.

                BE IT DECLARED that there exists today a radical movement possessing misinformation freely propagated for alleged ambitions of legalizing and freely distributing marijuana; that marijuana has been deemed unfit for medical administration by the American Medical Association (hereafter referred to as the AMA) by rationale of a high probability of abuse and lack of credible medical evidence supporting claims of therapeutic benefits; that it is the responsibility of the United States Government to protect its citizens from harmful and illicit substances; that it is the recommendation of this advisory board to terminate and disband all proponent groups of marijuana legalization and increase if not maintain current levels of vigilance fighting the drug epidemic sweeping our great nation.

                - - - - -

                BE IT RECOGNIZEDthat in the United States of America (hereafter referred to as the USA) over 14.6 million persons aging 12 or above have at one time burned and inhaled the dried leaves, flowers (buds) and stems of the psychoactive plant Cannabis indica or Cannabis sativa, commonly referred to as weed, pot, green, grass, bud, dope, chronic, hydro, bhang, ganja, kif, keef, mary jane, icky, sticky icky, ridiculously sticky icky, nugs, nuggets, nugsicles,or yummy nuggies; that it's widespread abuse has made marijuana the most widely used illicit drug; that marijuana is currently classified as Schedule I under the Controlled Substances Act (hereafter referred to as the CSA) drafted by the Drug Enforcement Agency (hereafter referred to as the DEA), recognized as such resulting from a high probability of abuse and possessing no currently recognized medicinal value; that users of marijuana face exposure to more deadly and addictive drugs and face an increased probability in their use; that marijuana users are likely to become a burden on society, as the drug causes the user to become sluggish, slow, dim-witted, schizophrenic, psychopathic and mentally retarded; that these grievances represent a serious concern to the DEA by means of degrading moral values of our youth and negatively affecting the health of those users.

                Sources: www.dea.gov

                BE IT RECOGNIZED that there exists in the USA an underground and radical effort by those who wish to legalize and freely distribute marijuana for means of a profit without fear of legal repercussions; that these supporters wish to engage in their deadly habit in public, affecting those in close proximity and subjecting others to serious health risks; that they possess lies and misinformation that they freely propagate as a method of convincing potential clients to distrust government studies as to increase sales of illicit drugs; that they propagate misinformation regarding alleged health benefits circumstantiated by studies conducted by radical left-wing publications such as the American Journal of Public Health, Journal of the National Cancer Institute and National Academy Press; that these supporters of legalization are utterly devoid of morality and common sensibility and wish no less than the absolute destruction of America, Christianity and all that the DEA wishes to protect.

                Sources: www.dea.gov

                BE IT RECOGNIZED that no current medicinal value exists for marijuana; that supporters of legalization claim that cancer patients that undergo chemotherapy and radiation treatments often suffer nausea and other negligible side effects; that the DEA has recommended alternate treatments that are more effective than marijuana and far less addictive and damaging, such as Bismuth subsalicylate (Pepto-Bismol); that ridiculous claims regarding marijuana's alleged medical “benefits” have surfaced, including the suggestion that regular marijuana use can alleviate and prevent the symptoms of glaucoma, despite obvious evidence that the lungs and eyes have little, if any, physiological connection.

                Sources: www.dea.gov

                BE IT RECOGNIZED that 1 of every 36 citizens are currently incarcerated in the US Penal System; that over 700,000 of these citizens were arrested for marijuana possession alone; that 84% of prisoners are convicted of nonviolent crimes, 80% for drug related crimes; that the annual cost of $25,000 per prisoner amounts to an annual $17,500,000,000 spent on incarcerating only those convicted of marijuana offenses; that it should be obvious this cost is more than justified when compared to the absolute havoc wreaked by allowing this drug to be freely traded on the street.

                Sources: www.dea.gov

                - - - - -

                BE IT RESOLVED that the supporters of the legalization of marijuana have no credible medical evidence that is not obtained directly from studies conducted by the DEA; that no medicinal value for marijuana exists; that mandatory sentences should be maintained if not increased to further isolate these destroyers of society from that which they would further erode; that these radical groups be disbanded and silenced in order to protect the physical wellbeing and moral integrity of the United States of America.

                Sources: www.dea.gov
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                Wrote this last week for a class. Good timing.

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                • dragonschild
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 40

                  #38
                  Re: Prohibition.

                  Why does a plant that is natural to planet Earth have to have medicinal value to be legal? You could probably go out and smoke a number of plants that could cause far worse problems than marijuana would, maybe poison ivy? It's almost like the government just lined up a row of plants, and chose one to be criminalized, just so they could feel powerful........ I know i'm getting silly, but seriously. I'm going say that I wasted my time reading that. It didn't back much evidence up.

                  Originally posted by Anticrombie0909
                  that mandatory sentences should be maintained if not increased to further isolate these destroyers of society from that which they would further erode.
                  Ha, damn pot smokers. You are tearing the very foundation of our society out, this is the apocolypse, marijuana will take over the world! ha
                  Last edited by dragonschild; 12-10-2006, 08:14 PM.

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                  • Anticrombie0909
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 4683

                    #39
                    Re: Prohibition.



                    sat - ire
                    1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
                    2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
                    3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.

                    [Origin: 1500–10; < L satira, var. of satura medley, perh. fem. deriv. of satur sated ]
                    I was really really hoping that nobody was stupid enough to mistake my piece for anything but obvious and clear cut satire.

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                    • Dragula219
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 629

                      #40
                      Re: Prohibition.

                      Originally posted by Anticrombie0909
                      Sources:
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                      Rofl. I like it. You pulled it off way better than I could.
                      Violent Skank is Violent!

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                      • JurseyRider734
                        lil j the bad b-word
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 7506

                        #41
                        Re: Prohibition.

                        Drinking to get drunk is stupid. Drinking socially is acceptable, but I still don't find it very wise to be drinking if you're under 21 anyway. You have 60 some years after that to drink all you want, wait another 5 years eh.

                        I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I do think there should be an age limit thing. Not like it would help much, but it's better than having 12 year olds walking into a store and buying pot and then riding their bikes down Main Street stoned and getting hit by a car.

                        Other drugs, no.

                        That's pretty much it.
                        Originally posted by Arch0wl
                        I'd better be considering I own roughly six textbooks on logic and have taken courses involving its extensive use

                        Originally posted by Afrobean
                        Originally Posted by JurseyRider734
                        the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
                        Just that you're a piece of shit who can't see reason and instead deserves a fucking beating.

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                        • dragonschild
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 40

                          #42
                          Re: Prohibition.

                          I guess I was thinking too* critical, haha shi*, now I feel really stupid.
                          Last edited by dragonschild; 12-11-2006, 08:25 AM.

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                          • MalReynolds
                            CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 6571

                            #43
                            Re: Prohibition.

                            Originally posted by dragonschild
                            I guess I was thinking to critical, ha shi*, now I feel really stupid.
                            Too* critically. And like I said, I have nothing against the drug, just how some people get a feeling of false moral superiority when they use it.
                            Last edited by MalReynolds; 12-10-2006, 09:52 PM.
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                            • Dragula219
                              FFR Player
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 629

                              #44
                              Re: Prohibition.

                              Originally posted by JurseyRider734
                              Drinking to get drunk is stupid. Drinking socially is acceptable, but I still don't find it very wise to be drinking if you're under 21 anyway. You have 60 some years after that to drink all you want, wait another 5 years eh.

                              I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I do think there should be an age limit thing. Not like it would help much, but it's better than having 12 year olds walking into a store and buying pot and then riding their bikes down Main Street stoned and getting hit by a car.

                              Other drugs, no.

                              That's pretty much it.
                              "If you're a 12 year old girl and your high on marijuana, Don't ride your bike."

                              Sorry, I'm done. I'll leave CT now.
                              Violent Skank is Violent!

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                              • The_Q
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2004
                                • 4391

                                #45
                                Re: Prohibition.

                                "When legilatures decide what is to be bought and sold, the first thing to be bought and sold are legislators."

                                Q

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