Multiple Universes?

[Reach]

Re: Multiple Universes?

Speed travels now?

If we can discover certain eight and ninth period elements, it might be possible to travel faster than the speed of light. Supposedly, some electrons in those elements have been predicted to have speeds faster than light. However, we cannot say this is true as none of the eight and ninth period elements have been discovered. =[

~Tsugomaru

Nothing with mass can move faster than C. It just can't happen, ever.

It is rather well known that something of non mass can travel faster than light. You can accelerate photons past the speed of light. (Also, remember 'relative mass' does not count as having mass. Relative mass, like a photon, only has mass because it has energy, e=mc^2)

*and as a technical side note, the photons still don't move themselves faster than the speed of light, but their state is distorted such that they move from point a to b faster than it would normally. It is seen as the photon reaching point b before it has left point a.

And then taking into account that when talking about light speed, you're talking about an energy state. It should be possible to travel between two points much faster than light by bending space time to shorten the relative distance traveled.

It is possible that there could be multiple universes that surround or solar system the thing is science has stated that there is an asteroid belt at the "end of our universe"

What?

We can see pretty far into space just using telescopes. Way beyond the asteroid belt. http://www.pparc.ac.uk/Ps/aac/images/full.jpg



Using CMBR actually, we can see right to the beginning of the universe.

[Mystik3345]

Re: Multiple Universes?

It is possible that there could be multiple universes that surround or solar system the thing is science has stated that there is an asteroid belt at the "end of our universe" so they say but can we know what’s beyond that? And if science has found the asteroid belt how come they can't go further? Could it be that there maybe something that we are afraid to know? I guess there are something’s we were never meant to know about the way the universe is built around us and exactly how many “universes” there are.

you realize that we are talking about the universe and not the solar system, which are two completely different things right? you seem very confused. there is an asteroid belt between mars and jupiter, and maybe one at the end of what is considered our solar system(if thats what you were trying to talk about, and i don't know whether there is evidence of one or not in that case)... also, we can see back to basically the beginning of the universe how things looked. We can see galaxies at like 500 billion light years away right now or something, which means the object we are seeing is so far away it took the light 500 billion years to reach us. This means that what we would be viewing is how that galaxy looked 500 billion years ago, not the object in it's current state. For all we know that object may not exist any more, it may be in a completely different area of the universe, it may be 10000x farther away now. I think an estimate of how much of the sky we have actually observed now in the entire universe is something like <1%, and we are CONSTANTLY observing the universe and discovering new things.

And also, by definition the universe is only able to exist within itself, therefore there is technically only one no matter how you put it. Perhaps there would be different sections of the universe that you could travel to and would be different from each other, but there would still only be one. If you die and go to heaven, you would still be within the universe. Perhaps in a different section or dimension but nonetheless in it. Also as I stated in my first post, the idea from which "multiple universes" was derived was complete ludicrous and already disproven.

[Tyren]

Re: Multiple Universes?

Reach, would you consider Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle in calculating photons and their movement? Thats what first came to mind when you were mentioning their distortion in movement. And also...i dont believe we can actually see to the beginnign of our existence, 14 billion years ago. The Hubble, which is our strongest telescope to date, can only see about 7-9 billion years into the past, unless of course you know something that i dont?

[Kinjiro]

Re: Multiple Universes?

Icefenix45560 posted this.

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/para...s19nov04.shtml

I'm pretty sure that is VERY incorrect, and can simply be explained as the light waves canceling each other out. The amplitudes being opposite changes when you add the extra hole, hence the change in the pattern. You learn about it in high school physics, and do a few labs based on this principle.


On topic, I think there are multiple universes. There is no reasonable explanation as to why there is not (but I will agree that nothing says they do exist either). It makes more sense to me that like atoms form matter, and matter forms planets, and planets form solar systems, that form galaxies, that form the universe (each with gaps between the pieces of substance that make them), the universe is part of a larger thing. Like atoms are made of quarks, and we don't know what quarks are made of, but they behave very much the same, albeit for different reasons (electromagnetism vs. gravity).