student vs professor

[falconsfan14]

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I dont care who you are thats funny.

[Cj_leonine]

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You have 30 seconds to repost this bulletin if you believe in god.If you don't, Satan will appear at your bedside while you sleep and slit your throat.

[T3hDDRKid]

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To put it bluntly, people from hundreds / thousands of years ago were idiots. Before Newton came along, most people assumed things they didn't understand happened because some god was messing with their lives. Then Newton comes in and he forces people to look at things in a logical, experimental point of view.

AHH!

You don't know how much it annoys me when people say that those who lived in the past were idiots.

The most convincing point I can think of offhand is the construction of the Temple of (I think) Chefren. If the name is wrong, don't jump down my throat. But this tomb was nearly twice the size of the highest temples in Egypt. How he accomplished this was by literally cutting out a mountain piece by piece and putting it on top of another mountain. However, they did not just haul rubble. That would have destroyed the use of the rock as a temple. They cut out forty TON cylinders of granite and rolled it on top of the other mountain. When it was in place, they cut it down to size, which equaled around twenty tons. Few machines even today can easily move a forty ton block.

Pi was invented somewhere around 250 BC by Archemedes, and though he didn't calculate it out to the however-million digits that we have, they also didn't need to, because as a fraction, it serves the same purposes.

Though they may not have had the advanced tools of today, but people from the past were at least as smart, if not smarter, than the people of today. They just weren't as advanced.

[Afrobean]

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AHH!

You don't know how much it annoys me when people say that those who lived in the past were idiots.

They're idiots by TODAY'S STANDARDS.

The most convincing point I can think of offhand is the construction of the Temple of (I think) Chefren. If the name is wrong, don't jump down my throat. But this tomb was nearly twice the size of the highest temples in Egypt. How he accomplished this was by literally cutting out a mountain piece by piece and putting it on top of another mountain. However, they did not just haul rubble. That would have destroyed the use of the rock as a temple. They cut out forty TON cylinders of granite and rolled it on top of the other mountain. When it was in place, they cut it down to size, which equaled around twenty tons. Few machines even today can easily move a forty ton block.

Don't watch the History Channel much, eh? They have a show that they air often about large machinary which can move large things. I watched one show there they literally drove a movie theatre down the street, turned it something like 90 degrees to the side, then planted it down in a new location.

And yeah, it is impressive that they could move such heavy material in those days. I imagine that the geniuses of those days were better with levers and simple machines of that nature than the average modern American.

Pi was invented somewhere around 250 BC by Archemedes, and though he didn't calculate it out to the however-million digits that we have, they also didn't need to, because as a fraction, it serves the same purposes.

Pi is not a rational number. To represent it as 22/7 is terribly wrong. It would be better to simply use 3.14 and use significant digits on your results. 22/7 adds in completely wrong numbers to the mix.

As for solving for pi: it's not that difficult. I figured out how to do it a while back. You're basically solving for the perimeter of a regular polygon with infinite sides. Good luck doing math with infinity though. I think the early instances of solving for pi used a 100 sides polygon and made the assumption that the 100 sided polygon was equal to a circle (obviously not true, but it allowed for close enough calculation).

Though they may not have had the advanced tools of today, but people from the past were at least as smart, if not smarter, than the people of today. They just weren't as advanced.

No, in most instances, the people of old time were quite stupid by today's standards. Sure ancient GENIUSES might have been better at working with simple machines than the AVERAGE modern human, but they do not compare to the geniuses of modern times, and additionally, the ancient geniuses knowlege was so low. Compare the average ancient man to the average modern man. Who has more knowlege?

[Squeek]

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T3hDDRKid: The world is flat.

Also, the sun revolves around the Earth.

[D4rkAng3l]

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this thread is giving me a major headache with all the science and stuff

[chickendude]

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This was clearly written up. No way was this an actual debate between a college teacher and a student. The college teacher's argument was too ... dumb to be that of an intelligent teacher being payed to prepare and teach a lesson. No way was that student's argument made up on the spot.

Tokzic hit it right on the head. It's a chain mail that makes christians smile when they receive the mail.

[Grandiagod]

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Dude, I heard this propoganda when I used to go to church. It's written up by some Christian ass, not a real arguement.

First of all, both their arguements are flawed. (especially since they try to debate each other on their own grounds but fail to take into place the facts of science or the philosophy of Christianity)

Second, this is ridiculous.

[ebs2002]

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No, in most instances, the people of old time were quite stupid by today's standards. Sure ancient GENIUSES might have been better at working with simple machines than the AVERAGE modern human, but they do not compare to the geniuses of modern times, and additionally, the ancient geniuses knowlege was so low. Compare the average ancient man to the average modern man. Who has more knowlege?

You're confusing intelligence with knowledge. They're two entirely different matters.

Intelligence is the ability to think; the ability to learn.
Knowledge is what has already been learned.

While I'll agree that the collective knowledge of the world in 2000BC was much lower than the collective knowledge of today, some of the greatest thinkers in history pre-dated the 20th century. I've heard arguments by philosophy professors that Aquinas had an IQ that exceeded 200 (of course, there was no IQ test at that time)...and he lived in the 13th century.

I'd hardly consider him an idiot

[Squeek]

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How can you say an idiot lacks intelligence or knowledge?

I didn't connect idiocy to anything in particular, and I am well aware of the differences between knowledge and intelligence.

I'll say that anyone who believed Earth was flat or the Sun revolved around Earth with the obvious proof of the opposite is an idiot.

[WillTalbot]

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who cares if it was copy paste? (seriously) And the student's argument was a valid one.

[mangafan1228]

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nerds...

[Grandiagod]

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nerds...

This man has a point.

Although, with the name mangafan, he also doens't have much room.

[duhh_]

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Honestly the majority of people in this thread have no idea about the underlying message within that arguement...

dont post if u have nothing to contribute.

[Afrobean]

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You're confusing intelligence with knowledge. They're two entirely different matters.

Intelligence is the ability to think; the ability to learn.
Knowledge is what has already been learned.

While I'll agree that the collective knowledge of the world in 2000BC was much lower than the collective knowledge of today, some of the greatest thinkers in history pre-dated the 20th century. I've heard arguments by philosophy professors that Aquinas had an IQ that exceeded 200 (of course, there was no IQ test at that time)...and he lived in the 13th century.

I'd hardly consider him an idiot

rofl you have no idea

IQ is based on the intelligence of one person versus the intelligence of the average person.

Let's say my IQ is 130. If everyone else in the world suddenly got more intelligent somehow, then my IQ would drop. IQ is not a definite number. It's a variable that changes.

People of ancient times were stupid. They had no concept of science at all, and science is the cornerstone of intelligence. Sure, there were geniuses then who probably rival the geniuses of our time intelligence-wise, but mostly, people were morons.

And by the way, you don't have to tell me that intelligence is different from knowlege. Honestly. What the hell. I wasn't even saying that them not having knowlege was the same as them not having intelligence. But think for a moment. What good is any kind of intelligence if it's not stimulated with knowlege? It might as well not even exist, even if it does.

Oh and just so you know, I'm sure that if I time traveled back to ancient times, gave everyone (literally EVERYONE, not just those who are known to be intelligent) an IQ test, and tested myself, I would estimate my IQ to be around 300.

And the student's argument was a valid one.

No. It wasn't. Just because something cannot be seen does not prove that it scientifically doesn't exist, WHEN THERE IS SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED EVIDENCE OF IT EXISTING IN EVERY OTHER HUMAN EVER.