Alien life

[Porkbutts]

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Have you ever thought of the possibility of people just trying to get attention? I could very well say that just tonight I saw this glowing green ball streak across the sky. Would you believe me? Would you believe me if you didn't know it was a hoax?
I agree that muscles in the eye twitching is too farfetched, but there are many more reasons why some people see UFOs. It could be your brain playing tricks on you. After all, there are ten thousand optical illusions in existance that all fool you. Maybe your eyes and brain aren't that reliable at all. There could also be people who just play pranks on people. They can tie plates on fishing wire and hang them from a tree. You really can't tell the difference from far away.

I have to agree. UFO's are pretty farfetched, and there are always conspiracies to consider. I doubt there is any alien life in our solar system. It was extremely rare and extremely lucky that earth developed life, because there are tons of conditions that need to be met for life. Maybe in some other distant galaxy there are advanced life forms.

If there were any life forms nearby in this galaxy, I doubt it would be what we expect them to look like. Probably microscopic bacterial life or some stuff like that.

[Dance_Dance_Badger]

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Alright, heres the problem..

Even if we do find other life forms or vice-versa, how are we going to communicate with them? They would either be too under developed to communicate, and if they are advanced, their language and expressions would be extremely different from ours, if they had it or not. So if we do see other life, how will we talk to them?

And, if they did come into our atmosphere, they may need completley different minerals and sources to survive, Nitrogen could be poisonus to them, Oxygen could be deadly, They could expel gasses that could kill us.

[GuidoHunter]

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Alien Life Exists. There is so much proof. With like 32,000 UFO sightings a year, which is quite an impressive number, there is some proof. Scientists are all like, "its muscles in the eye twitching." Never in my life have I had an eye twitch that makes me see flying discs or colored balls flying across the sky.

You are a moron. UFO claims present ZERO proof, even with thirty two thousand a year. Alien spaceship sightings have been so thoroughly debunked that you'd have to be incredibly gullible to believe in them.

Remember: UFO = unidentified flying object. When people report seeing these, they report seeing something (an object) in the sky (flying) that they don't know what it is (unidentified). It could be ANYTHING. Does that mean it's an alien spaceship? Hardly.

They found chondrules, a small wormlike structure, germ size, on a meteor found in Antarctica. They determined it came from mars. It contains martian soil traces.

That evidence isn't conclusive; you're generalizing. Because of this, you cannot say that there was life on Mars.

Then they excavate it and get ALH0000000081 or something like that. The thing that confused them was that the fossilized chondrules had no DNA or RNA. They were perplexed as how a creature of this sort could live without the basic (not really) building blocks of life.

Then how did they determine it was life?

The face on mars. A Classic. I don't think erosion created this marvelous wonder. To my knowledge, robots have never explored it. It could be a dead lifeform haven for all we know. Erosion may have contributed but to make a 2 mile wide and practically perfect face, impossible IMO.

You CAN'T be serious if you think there's anything special about the "face" on Mars. Do you believe in the Man in the Moon, too? I suggest you dictionary.com "pareidolia". You say "for all we know" as if we don't know much. You sir, are wrong about that.

Even if we do find other life forms or vice-versa, how are we going to communicate with them?

Binary. How do you think the Arecibo message was coded?

And, if they did come into our atmosphere, they may need completley different minerals and sources to survive, Nitrogen could be poisonus to them, Oxygen could be deadly, They could expel gasses that could kill us.

You know, if there was a species out there intelligent enough to develop interstellar travel, I would THINK that they would know about gas chromatography, too. Or, at least enough to scope out a planet before exposing themselves to it.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[talisman]

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Did no one else notice that ginormous bump... ?

anyway. Yes there is intelligent life somewhere. Yes most likely in our galaxy. No it hasn't visited us. No there's no other intelligent life in our solar system. But there may be microbial life somewhere else in our solar system, whether on mars or the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.

[mattyohh]

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There has to be something else out there in the universe somewhere... the univerese goes on forever evidently so it makes you think that there's something else out there or like paralel universes and you go threw the black holes to get to them like stargate or that show Sliders were the went to paralel universes being chased by umm... the Crowmag Dynasty or something like that. so it could be possible that there's other life forms out there.

P.S. didn't they find like bacteria on one of saturn or Neptunes moons...

[Mindfields]

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The universe is just way too big, thinking about the unlimitedness of it makes my head asplode. There are these huge black holes and massive suns and planets, there are just way too many possibilities for there NOT to be life on other planets. Intelligent life is more restrictive, but there are no boundaries to the universe, so there could be a LOT of planets with intelligent life.

[clocktower]

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yes i do, a little... Area 51... ( THAT STUFF IS CREEPY MAN )
but im religious..so don;t make fun of me, but I'm sure god wouldn't let us get hurt by these so called ''aliens.''

[GuidoHunter]

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yes i do, a little... Area 51... ( THAT STUFF IS CREEPY MAN )
but im religious..so don;t make fun of me, but I'm sure god wouldn't let us get hurt by these so called ''aliens.''

Give up on Area 51 right now. There is zero reason to believe that aliens were ever there (or, at least, over any other section of the world).

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Grandiagod]

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The only thing at Area 51 is experimental planes. The government has created such fuss about it, not putting it on maps and all. Intentional disinformation?

[mattyohh]

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there's those sad people that sit out there everynight with a video camera trying to catch a UFO on tape. with area 51 if the US government actually came into contact with UFOs you reckon they'd put all that stuff in a place where the whole population didn't know about

[GuidoHunter]

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Yeah, because they'd have so much to gain by hiding aliens......

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[businessman07]

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sure ther are aliens. probably billions of years older and smarter than us. scientists say that to have life you need water. but that is only true on earth. who is to say there isn't life on the sun. you can't because we as humans can't get close to it. science says that space is a fabric that is always expanding but we still don't fully know how earth seems to just spin in mid air. if earth were to be put into a clock of the universe, hardly a fraction of a second would hav passed now put humans in the equation and u really see how tiny we are. and that we are clueless of our surroundings. like i said sure there are aliens, when we truly discover that, it will be amazing. but probably far from now. if we are not destroyed by the sun first.

[Novacaine]

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I think the likelyhood of there being intelligent life anywhere but earth is actually very very small.

Sure when u consider the numbers of stars and galaxies it seems hard to believe.

But in order to have intelligent life first of all the planet must be the right distance from the star, it has to stay a consistant distance from the star as it revolves, it needs a moon to keep it stable and if theres any other planets they all need to revolve in a consistant distance away from the planet and the sun as well through out the full revolution so theres no gravitational pull between them.

And so far most of the planets weve found outside our solarsystem dont revolve a consistant distance around the sun throughout the whole revolution so a solar system like ours may be a rarity.

And the likelyhood of all that falling into place is incredibly small.

I bet theres life out there somewhere but primative if anything, just because the conditions needed for intelligent life usually aren't there.

And any bull**** about aliens being kept secret by the government or flying saucers abducting people on this planet is just pure bull**** because if that was the case SETI wouldn't be wasting all their money on telescopes and computers searching in space when they could just find it right here on earth.

[Reach]

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Nova, you're assuming life has to form the same way we have. Our system is very fine tuned but that doesn't mean an entirely different system couldn't form under different conditions. Self manifestation; a few simple keys and you've allowed a planet to begin changing and adapting to sustain itself.

''But in order to have intelligent life first of all the planet must be the right distance from the star, it has to stay a consistant distance from the star as it revolves, it needs a moon to keep it stable and if theres any other planets they all need to revolve in a consistant distance away from the planet and the sun as well through out the full revolution so theres no gravitational pull between them.''

Actually, not true. It doesn't necessarily need to be close to the sun. If you have a fairly large planet it could support life on it's moon. You also have to consider extremophiles that we've seen here on earth; organisms that live in some of the most seemingly uninhabitable places imaginable. Red dwarfs make up like 75% of the stars and now they've actually turned up to be potentials for life!

We know microbial life is pretty common in the universe, that's for sure, and guess what dominated earth for hell, a billion years? That and we don't even know what really happened during that time! There seems to me like there could be so many paths to create intelligent life. The normal processes of the planet end up taking care of itself over time. I personally think the question is more of how life on other planets is forming, not if ;o

As I see it, nature, or hell, god if you want, is pretty clever. It would find a way to get around problems seemingly impossible to our simple minds ^^

[Hr2]

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I personally do not believe that whatever the dominant race on Earth is when the sun goes red giant will simply die out. By that time we will probably have already mapped out where we will transport our race, aswell as figured out how to colonize other planets. Do I think humans will ever meet another sentient race? No, but I do believe that "earthlings" (ha ha) may have that possibility.

We've managed to travel to the moon, take pictures of other galaxies, and send probes to other planets in less than a quarter million years, what could we do with a few billion.