Alien life

[somerndmguy]

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Yesh, a light year is a unit of distance, and as such, was used to indicate it does not take billions of said units to travel across our galaxy. It's like saying, "It doesn't take billions of miles to travel to the mall from here." Going back and reading over it, it does sound strange, but I can't see anything wrong with it.

Agreed.

Interesting how like, one or two ppl suggested the fact that alien life might NOT be hyperintelligent supergeniuses... They could just be lowly bacteria starting to develop in a primordial ooze stuff...

Besides, the human intelligence seems quite accidental... It's already quite uncommon to find a planet with suitable conditions for life... even LESS likely to find life... and EVEN LESS likely to have a structural thing like a backbone, let alone have advanced intelligence or the power of communication... I wonder if we're one of a kind in this universe...

I'm just saying...

[Lightknight924]

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Mars, may have been a past Earth. I mean look at these possibilities:

1. There is life on mars such as plants.
2. There is some water.
3. It's a solid planet.

It has all the qualities an organism would have needed to survive. The climates may have been colder because of the distance of the sun to Mars compared to the Earth and the suns distance. Look, the atmosphere has been burning holes and things like this. The core of the Earth is slowing down gradually which will(in time) rid the magnetic field. Then the suns solar waves will come and wipe out the Earth's life. Leaving it mishaped and unhabited. Much like mars. So maybe Mars had been a planet much like Earth? Perhaps the organisms got away from Mars before it was too late. Think of the possibilities here.

[dawg4321]

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Aliens exist. screw math and science. There are like googleplexs' of galaxies and stars and there just has to be other lifeforms. And also somerndmguy, you think that you need a planet with plants and water and things for life but u don't probably. Other life forms probably don't follow the same basic needs that humans need. Secondly communication is slow and aliens that are more intelligent then us have prolly found ways of telepathic communication or a whole different concept of communication altogether. Anyways, that's my opinion. You don't gotta believe it.

[Lightknight924]

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Yes, but to our knowledge, all living organisms need to have energy. Energy has been proven to lessen or run out over a certain amount of time. You have to consume something to regain it. Every organism must replenish itself. Therefore, since we know of no animals in space, they must survive on a planet.

Our body quickly runs out of energy without oxygen causing us or any other animal to pass out. Same goes for any living animal. Unless they can somhow bypass the laws of Life itself and live without food or water or even oxygen.
That seems very unreal to me. Although, I still could be wrong.

Edit* Here's something, Religion. We have no clue how many other lifeforms are out there so we have no clue how many possible religions could exist. Hundreds. Thousands. Millions. Billions. It never ends. So to some other superior race somewhere, Christianity or Judaism could seem dumb and unreal.

[Liskenger]

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The truth is personally, I believe that Aliens exist. And that stupid ass movies like Signs and stuff make it all cut out to be nothing. They probably are smarter. But I also believe that there is probably another world, possibly just like earth. Humans that look alike etc. I mean, we can't be the only form. Theres not just a bunch of fish in a lake. They are in every natural body of water almost. And if aliens were to break the light/sound barrier, hyperspeed or whatever you would like to call it, it would have an extreme amount of pressure on their body. They would need some kind of object to allow them to cut through the air, having no inertia or friction. BTW the flying saucer crap is BS. Not aerodynamic, unless aliens are like us and believe style over power is more important.

[Bamboozler]

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Well, if they actually were advanced enough to break the speed of light/warp travel, im sure they wouldn't have any problem finding us hataki. They would be too advanced for us to even comprehend at this point in time.

And yes I do believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. The universe is bigger than we can comprehend really...the chances of there being no life elsewhere is basically 0, even though life is obviously rare, there are more planets out there than we can even give a number value to.

I do agree with the fact that there's a good chance aliens exist. However, I believe that the comment that the universe is to big to give a number value to is invalid. How do you know for a CERTAIN fact the universe has no limit? No one does, and just because you BELIEVE aliens exist doesnt mean they do. At this point in time, we may or may not be the only species in the universe, or there may be others, and WE may be the most advanced of all of them. It's no ones right to say, or even make suggestions about hese kinds of topics until we have more information to go on... least ways til' we have enough technology to venture outside our solar system with technology other than just cameras...

[GuidoHunter]

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Light, a couple of points:

One, there is no life on Mars that we've seen (referring to the plants you mentioned earlier. I'm still baffled that you can talk out of your ass like that). Two, Mars is (in astronomical time) just as old as the Earth. It still has a molten core and a magnetic field. Suggesting that it was inhabited and went through natural decay far faster than the Earth is absurd.

--Guido

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[Reach]

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I do agree with the fact that there's a good chance aliens exist. However, I believe that the comment that the universe is to big to give a number value to is invalid. How do you know for a CERTAIN fact the universe has no limit? No one does, and just because you BELIEVE aliens exist doesnt mean they do. At this point in time, we may or may not be the only species in the universe, or there may be others, and WE may be the most advanced of all of them. It's no ones right to say, or even make suggestions about hese kinds of topics until we have more information to go on... least ways til' we have enough technology to venture outside our solar system with technology other than just cameras...

Where did I say the universe has no limit? ...

Saying we can't give a number value to the planets is simply an expression. There are so many of them we'd never be able to get it right.

Hell, considering the universe is expanding it isn't infinite. We could (to a point) measure the space inside of it.

However, let's do a little math. I'll assume there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy, which is a fair estimate. I'll also assume this galaxy is of a fairly standard size...meaning there will be both larger and smaller, but I'll make it the average. Now let's say only one in 10 million stars contain solar systems. Fair enough. So there are 10000 solar systems. Now let's estimate the number of galaxies in the universe to be around 100 billion which is pretty tame...alright, you can do the rest of the math.

Sure, I can't prove they exist! However, not making logical conclusions from data we have observed is stupid.

And what the **** are you going on about with rights? Modern astronomy suggests solar systems with earth like planets are probably the norm over something 'super rare' as a lot of people trying to defend religion and such will tell you. It's called making rational conclusions. Noone's saying such and such is fact, we're having a discussion.

I personally think there is lots and lots of different kinds of life out there.

And sorry buddy, but we'll likely have to rely on pictures for a very long time. Unless you're willing to figure out how to warp space time, then we're stuck...unless you enjoy traveling through space for thousands of years.

[Reach]

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I do agree with the fact that there's a good chance aliens exist. However, I believe that the comment that the universe is to big to give a number value to is invalid. How do you know for a CERTAIN fact the universe has no limit? No one does, and just because you BELIEVE aliens exist doesnt mean they do. At this point in time, we may or may not be the only species in the universe, or there may be others, and WE may be the most advanced of all of them. It's no ones right to say, or even make suggestions about hese kinds of topics until we have more information to go on... least ways til' we have enough technology to venture outside our solar system with technology other than just cameras...

Where did I say the universe has no limit? ...

Saying we can't give a number value to the planets is simply an expression. There are so many of them we'd never be able to get it right.

Hell, considering the universe is expanding it isn't infinite. We could (to a point) measure the space inside of it.

However, let's do a little math. I'll assume there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy, which is a fair estimate. I'll also assume this galaxy is of a fairly standard size...meaning there will be both larger and smaller, but I'll make it the average. Now let's say only one in 10 million stars contain solar systems. Fair enough. So there are 10000 solar systems (which is way too few) Now let's estimate the number of galaxies in the universe to be around 100 billion which is pretty tame...alright, you can do the rest of the math.

Sure, I can't prove they exist! However, not making logical conclusions from data we have observed is stupid.

And what the **** are you going on about with rights? Modern cosmology suggests solar systems with earth like planets are probably the norm over something 'super rare' as a lot of people trying to defend religion and such will tell you. It's called making rational conclusions. Noone's saying such and such is fact, we're having a discussion.

I personally think there is lots and lots of different kinds of life out there.

And sorry buddy, but we'll likely have to rely on pictures for a very long time. Unless you're willing to figure out how to warp space time, then we're stuck...unless you enjoy traveling through space for thousands of years. Ideas are what push civilization. You can't say "you have no right until we have more information!". Yea, I bet that's what they told Iaasic Newton.

[Hr2]

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Apparently I have voted on this but never posted.

According to NASA there are approximately 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe (put Reach's equation into a number). We are discovering that many stars have planetary systems, not just ours, we simply could not find them because they are quite small. Although I recall from an article in National Geographic they have discovered planets the size of Jupiter or so near other stars. We know that life can live on earth in very cold and very hot conditions, and what we know of evolution just increases the chances of life on other planets with different climates than ours.

I do not believe any sentient life will find its way here, because of the distances that other stars are away. But I do believe we have enough evidence on Earth that other life is POSSIBLE on other planets. We may be the very lucky, only sentient beings in the entire universe! Or, there may be life right around the corner in our own galaxy. It is impossible to know with the current technology.

But do I think there is life out there, somewhere in the universe, right this moment? Definately.

[FluorescentArmy]

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Alien Life Exists. There is so much proof. With like 32,000 UFO sightings a year, which is quite an impressive number, there is some proof. Scientists are all like, "its muscles in the eye twitching." Never in my life have I had an eye twitch that makes me see flying discs or colored balls flying across the sky.

In Earth Science, I have to do this 400 point project and my group is about the search for life in the universe as we know it. They have found proof of life on mars. They found chondrules, a small wormlike structure, germ size, on a meteor found in Antarctica. They determined it came from mars. It contains martian soil traces. They think it got there when rocks from the Kuiper Belt were flung out by a gravitational flaw in the sun. This particular rock smashed into mars and then was flung off mars later. They don't know how the rocks got off mars or I suck at reading. Then they excavate it and get ALH0000000081 or something like that. The thing that confused them was that the fossilized chondrules had no DNA or RNA. They were perplexed as how a creature of this sort could live without the basic (not really) building blocks of life.

The face on mars. A Classic. I don't think erosion created this marvelous wonder. To my knowledge, robots have never explored it. It could be a dead lifeform haven for all we know. Erosion may have contributed but to make a 2 mile wide and practically perfect face, impossible IMO.

[Hr2]

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A lot of reports about something doesn't make it real you know. I'm sure there are more sightings of ghosts every year than UFOs but that is no proof for ghosts existing.

[SethSquall]

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I think there is, considering how big the universe is. I think there has to be some form of life. Maybe not like grey things with big heads and motherships and that jive. I think there is bound to be forms of life out there somwere.

[Reach]

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They found water on one of saturns moons yesterday. So they suspect there is life on it...obviously not intelligent, but the fact that there is other life in this solar system alone kind of debunks this whole 'rare earth bull****. Solar systems are all generally formed in a similar manner.

[somerndmguy]

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Alien Life Exists. There is so much proof. With like 32,000 UFO sightings a year, which is quite an impressive number, there is some proof. Scientists are all like, "its muscles in the eye twitching." Never in my life have I had an eye twitch that makes me see flying discs or colored balls flying across the sky.

Have you ever thought of the possibility of people just trying to get attention? I could very well say that just tonight I saw this glowing green ball streak across the sky. Would you believe me? Would you believe me if you didn't know it was a hoax?
I agree that muscles in the eye twitching is too farfetched, but there are many more reasons why some people see UFOs. It could be your brain playing tricks on you. After all, there are ten thousand optical illusions in existance that all fool you. Maybe your eyes and brain aren't that reliable at all. There could also be people who just play pranks on people. They can tie plates on fishing wire and hang them from a tree. You really can't tell the difference from far away.