Times have changed.

[Laharl]

I'm fairly certain I don't belong in today's world.

I believe women are to be respected. Chivarly nowadays will simply get you scoffed at.

I believe life, and the creation of it, is a dear and sacred thing. In today's world, people thing the choice is to not have the baby after it's conception, and not whether or not to put out.

I believe in being honest in all I do. People think it's best to just live "for (ourselves)" and that to get ahead meants to hold everyone else back.

Today, there is no such thing as wrong.

[QreepyBORIS]

Re: Times have changed.

Today, there is no such thing as wrong.

Wrong.

[CypherToorima]

RE: Times have changed.

I agree with Laharl. Very very very much.

But...times change, people change.
In all honesty, I believe there are two major things responsible for the decline of morals.
Technology and lack of relegion.
I'm not saying technology is bad. It is very much the opposite, but everything has a repercussion. As technology advances, we don't have to depend on ourselves for our basic needs. Of course, as the Renaissance showed us, as technology improved, so did the want for education and art and literature and all that good stuff. But as technology advances even further, the longing for those things have become a thing of the past. Who wants art when there is T.V. Every kid hates school. No one reads when there are movies of books. It's just stuff that happens.

Onto the lack of religion, I don't want to stir up another religion arguement, I just want to point out that in the past, when the bible, quran, what have you, was strickly inforced, so were morals, and that's what today's society is lacking a whole whole whole whole whole whole bunch. It became more and more acceptable to show more and more skin. Or to treat women this way or that.

Shit happens and times change.

[Aedak]

Re: RE: Times have changed.

I agree with Laharl. Very very very much.

But...times change, people change.
In all honesty, I believe there are two major things responsible for the decline of morals.
Technology and lack of relegion.

Shit happens and times change.

I'm not going to get into the technology or religion thing. I remember reading somewhere about an journal or scripture of some kind saying that children no longer obey their parents. But ironically this was written by an ancient Sumerian something like 2000 B.C. - so people have been saying this same thing for hundreds of years now, if not more.

[Kilgamayan]

RE: Re: RE: Times have changed.

oh the times they are a-changin'

[User6773]

RE: Re: RE: Times have changed.

Thank you, Casey, for putting into words something I very much agree with.

[Kilgamayan]

Re: Times have changed.

Ok I actually read the post this time and I stumbled across this

I believe women are to be respected. Chivarly nowadays will simply get you scoffed at.

Fuck chivalry. I treat women as my equal, not as beings better than me. Respect, yes, I fully endorse and practice. Mindless pampering, no, unless you do it for men just as much.

I agree with the honesty thing and I'm sick of arguing abortion so I'll stop here.

[CypherToorima]

RE: Re: Times have changed.

Hell, nowadays, Chivalry is just treating a woman with respect.

[Squeek]

RE: Re: Times have changed.

There's really no such thing as an inferior human being and I think trying to be "nicer" to someone because of something they are not is a form of disrespect.

If you're going to treat them as equals, then do so. Unfortunately, that's called a hate crime in this day and age :/

~Squeek

[Laharl]

Re: Times have changed.

Ok I actually read the post this time and I stumbled across this

I believe women are to be respected. Chivarly nowadays will simply get you scoffed at.

F#$% chivalry. I treat women as my equal, not as beings better than me. Respect, yes, I fully endorse and practice. Mindless pampering, no, unless you do it for men just as much.

I agree with the honesty thing and I'm sick of arguing abortion so I'll stop here.

As taken from dictionary.com

chivalry

n 1: courtesy towards women [syn: gallantry, politesse]

If you're nice to a girl nowadays, they think you're just trying to get goodwill points so eventually you can bed her. Guys think you're gay if you treat women with respect.

I'm making gross exaggerations, but after a while, it seriously feels that way to me.

[blahblah18]

RE: Re: Times have changed.

Kilga thank you, I basically believe everything you ever post here is just pure truth, its awesome... I'm so sick of the double standard that women want, they can't have it both ways... let them choose

[Kefit]

This is in response to the first post of the topic:

Stop deluding yourself into thinking that you are above everyone else. You aren't. Nothing about the opinions you hold is any more right or wrong than the opinions held by those who disagree with you. Don't delude yourself into thinking you are alone either, as there are many many people who would agree with you on every subject you mentioned.

Everyone in this world holds different values. These values guide us to the viewpoints we hold on matters such as the ones you mentioned. Since our values are different, the viewpoints we hold will likewise be different. But just as one value cannot be objectively said to be better than another, one viewpoint cannot objectively be said to be better than another. Reconciling these differences between values and viewpoints amongst those we share our lives with is a major part of life, and is something that I believe ultimately propels us forward.

[User6773]

Stop deluding yourself into thinking that you are above everyone else.

Stop deluding yourself into thinking that everyone's set of morality is acceptable and that there is no benefit to traditional morality.

[jazzmosis]

I don't agree that the "lack of religion" has created a downfall in morality, since some religions committed some horrific crimes of humanity. The concept of religion is fundamentally flawed (in most aspects).

Although I agree with basically most of the points. Women don't deserve the treatment they currently get, they deserve equal - but not more. That's why I don't agree with some hardcore feminists, since they're virtually asking for the tables to be flipped, but when something bad happens, they can fall back on men for support. Screw that. Equality.

[Kilgamayan]

Stop deluding yourself into thinking that you are above everyone else.

Stop deluding yourself into thinking that everyone's set of morality is acceptable and that there is no benefit to traditional morality.

Everyone's set of morality is acceptable one some level because that person accepts it or else it wouldn't be their set of morals.

However, not everyone's set of moralities are necessarily acceptable to one given person.

Don't forget that you aren't the center of the universe, and that your beliefs and morals aren't held by everyone else.