school funds going down

[kadarak]

school funds in ontario and quebec city are going down and are wasted on the canadian military i dont think its fair considering the fact that we have the united states beside us with a military three times the size and power. reply thanks.

[virus-maker]

Oh well, school sucks anyways, getting good grades in school isnt even a measure of smart you are anymore, its a measure of how obidient you are.

[The_Q]

To get more money for public schools you have to tax the public more. Reallocating it would be stupid just as well. You'll lose the US one day and you'll need to defend yourselves.

I don't know how to fix it and I won't pretend like I do. All I could suggest is for more people to move into Canada so there are more people to tax the same amount. The government income increases and the funds would become available much more readily. Only problem is finding people who will just pick up and move to Canada when the US is right on the border.

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[esupin]

Yes but I don't think there are many job opportunities there as in the US. Their enconomy is not great.

[flypie743]

Oh well, school sucks anyways, getting good grades in school isnt even a measure of smart you are anymore, its a measure of how obidient you are.

wtf?

[Lupin_the_3rd]

Oh well, school sucks anyways, getting good grades in school isnt even a measure of smart you are anymore, its a measure of how obidient you are.

wtf?

He has somewhat of a point, though I don't altogether agree with it having to do with obedience.

At my school, homework has a huge importance. The smartest kid I have ever met (in both thought and resourcefulness) gets poor grades due to his lack of organization and doing of his homework but aces every test. On the other hand, there are girls near to the point of being retarded in my class that get by due to their organization and by doing their homework.

In one class last year, missing a homework meant 2 points off your grade with no redemption, and we had homework nightly.

[JesusWaffle]

I think it's really absurd that they're taking away school money to fund the military. Schools don't get enough money as it is. It will be a wonderful day when schools have all the money they need and the military needs to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.

[flypie743]

I think its dumb how sports players get paid millions of dollars a year and then teachers get paid $35,000 a year. What is the world coming to? The teachers are the ones who have an affect of the future, by teaching us students. Not that the athletes aren't important, but still millions of dollars for playing a season of ______.

[esupin]

I think its dumb how sports players get paid millions of dollars a year and then teachers get paid $35,000 a year. What is the world coming to? The teachers are the ones who have an affect of the future, by teaching us students. Not that the athletes aren't important, but still millions of dollars for playing a season of ______.

Unfortunately, this will not change any time soon.

[flypie743]

I think its dumb how sports players get paid millions of dollars a year and then teachers get paid $35,000 a year. What is the world coming to? The teachers are the ones who have an affect of the future, by teaching us students. Not that the athletes aren't important, but still millions of dollars for playing a season of ______.

Unfortunately, this will not change any time soon.

Yeah, I know I was just posting my opinion on that matter...it is kind of annoying...meh

[Chrissi]

I agree that school is about obedience and not how smart you are. If you don't do what the teacher likes, you fail. It's that simple. Do what the teacher wants you to do, and you pass. Do homework. You can fail every test but still pass a course because you did all your homework and completed all projects. On the other hand, you can fail while passing every test but not doing homework and projects.

In fact, at my school, if you don't complete a project to the teacher's satisfaction, you don't get the credit unless you redo the project until the teacher likes it. Also, if the teacher hands back the assignment before you have handed in a satisfactory effort, you get ZERO but still have to complete it to pass the course. All assignments must be completed to gain the credit. Now THAT is retarded. There are also NO exceptions. Even if you got 100% on everything else, missing an assignment will cause you not to pass.

[The_Q]

Esupin: You have made the mistake millions of people have over and over again. If fact, you made 2. The first is that you somehow got someone to convince you about the US's shitty economy without much support. Most likely it's "the economy has been sucking as compared to 10-20 years ago." The second is to reannounce this "fact" to me. I have explained in this Forum many times that the economy goes through cycles. If you draw it out it looks like a wave, peaks and troughs of parabolas moving in slightly posative direction on the charts. Where most people screw up when they look at the economy is they compare heights (peaks) to recessions or even depressions (troughs). To accurately say the economy is shitty you have to compare the point in the cycle we were at in the last trough to the one we are in currently. If done properly you'll find that the economy is better now than it ever has been in the past. That's the cold hard fact. Don't let anyone else say otherwise, unless they can disprove it.

Flypie: Why shouldn't teachers get paid so poorly compared to actors and singers? There are loads of teachers in the world. We can't get rid of them. How many talented singers or actors are there? Compared to teachers, almost none. Allow me to illustrate supply and demand with a model: Water is essential to life and diamonds are next to worthless when it comes to survival. Water is free or cheap just about everywhere but diamonds are one of the Earth's most valuable items. Why? Water covers over 70% of the Earths surface, but diamonds can't be found easily at all. Scarcity of an item causes it's price to go up when the demand for such items grows. Diamonds are pretty, that's why we want them. The fact that they shine make them valuable. Water is overly abundant. We all need it, but it's all over the place. I love the fact that teachers are paid less than actors and singers. It shows we're not communists.

Chrissi: Welcome to Life. Tough, huh?

[flypie743]

I love the fact that teachers are paid less than actors and singers.

That is a worthless statement. So an actor gets up and sings. WAHOOO! GO THEM. And they get paid millions of dollars. Teachers they actually affect the future. I don't see singers or actors helping the world by teaching kids. By teaching kids that means we have less bad people in the world. Which makes it a better world. So teachers are helping the world in the way that actors and singers can not. Teachers should get paid more than they make...when you see football players, singers, whatever get paid millions and teachers roughly a 35,000...who deserves the money more...someone who actually taught a kid and made the world a better place OR someone who scored a touchdown or sang at a concert. I am not saying that athletes, singers, actors, etc. shouldn't get paid at all...no they have a great talent, but they should not get paid that much and then you see a teacher getting paid didly squat. It's stupid. And it should be changed, but it won't, which is sad.

[The_Q]

There is even more reasoning, but I kept it brief. Where should I start.

When the anti-trust laws were being put into service many corporations realized that they would have to operate on their own, no help from so called competitors anymore. One group managed to get through this without a scratch. Politicians. The candidates who run can meet and agree on deals that allow one group some advantages and other some advantages. This is the exact same behavior that we are keeping United and American Airlines from commiting. Those two massive companies can't agree on setting certain fares for certain people and sharing the proceedings but politicians can. Why is that?

Anyone's initial answer is the same. "Because they are breaking laws to make laws. That evens it all out." Hasn't anyone come to think that maybe laws are bad? Maybe teaching children to behave a certain way is also bad. I know of one major example that can be pulled right from the pages of any K-6 grade school's curiculum. It's something that we might be paying our Actors and Singers to NOT teach our kids.

Environmentalism. All of us were taught as children to not waste paper, recycle all the paper you use, and sometimes wash out our little "Dixie" cups. Doing this saves helpless trees in the beautiful rainforest from being torn down by murderous logging cretins who want to destroy the health of our planet. "With the privilage of living here comes the responsibility of protecting it."

Drivel. I love nature, and I want to preserve as much of it as possible. That's why I consume as much paper as possible. I don't recycle it either. Why would I do such a horrible thing? If I do my part in lowering the supply of paper, the demand goes up. That means loggers chop down more trees. That's where environmentalists stop and say "it's bad." They seemed to have forgotten the fact that if loggers are making a profit off of selling lumber to paper manufacturers, they'd want to keep the crop coming. That's why, on average, 10 trees are planted for each tree cut down. (This is my opinion on easily renewable resources only. Please do recycle petrol or plastic products. Those cannot be regrown like trees.)

"With the privilage of living on this planet comes the responsibility to protect it." I believe more in Thomas Jefferson than environmentalist propoganda. Both he and I believe that living (here or anywhere) is an inalienable RIGHT that we have. Having that right taken away so I can care for people several centuries from now is not what I'd like to happen, especially if that means they lose their right as well. It is inalienable after all.

Now that I am done with environmentalism, allow me to point out another thing. I don't normally do this, but I feel it necessary. What logic do you use that says that teachers SHOULD be paid more. If pointing our children in the right direction is essential for moral justice, why shouldn't all teachers be volunteer? (I'm for volunteer work, as long as you're not volunteering to take something and give it to someone for free.) If it's so moral, then shouldn't it also be moral for teachers to give up all their pay to support the school's budget for supplies? Last time I checked, the few sacraficing for the many was a very moral (and economical) thing to do.

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[DracIV]

The true cost of schools that hurts them most is textbooks. The textbook companies have INSANE prices and are just wracking the schools for every cent they have. When my father went to college, $250 a quarter was a huge price and one he could barely afford, when I went to college, $250 was less than I paid for textbooks. It costs schools millions upon millions to buy so many textbooks at the insane prices that are asked, and so other parts of the school lack funding.