May 21 2011

[Syhto]

Re: May 21 2011

what is research????

[3lijah]

Re: May 21 2011

I have a question for everyone in ITT...

Before I continue, I would like to say that I am a Christian man, myself. I cannot say that I have all good things in my life, because that's not anyone. Nor can I say that I am faithful. I haven't been to church in 5 years. and in account of what has happened and what I have done in my life, Its a sure bet that I might be going to hell from my decisions. Now, I don't know about everyone else, but I would love to go to heaven. Sounds like a cool place, doesn't it? No partying, booze or drugs, just pure and everlasting peace and comfort. Not a single day with any worries. at. all. I would love that, best believe.

What im trying to say is, for the ppl that aren't religious or don't believe in nothing at all, according to your beliefs nothing is going to happen to you once you die, from what I can see. You go nowhere, you wait nowhere, you will be absolutely nothing. Basically. Isn't that sad in a sense? Don't you find it sort of disheartening that you will be nothing when you pass away, that you have nothing ahead of you but darkness? You cant avoid death, no restart button. Is it because you think you have it all figured out and everyone that still believes in God is a fuccing idiot? Are your beliefs 100% supported by facts and facts alone, therefore if the facts do not add up to religious beliefs, they don't apply? Or do you find religion as a crutch for the human mind, and believe only the weak willed follow religion?

tl;dr-read it, you retard. if ur on ffr right now, there's really nothing else to do atm. Also, inb4 christfag black person.

[darkshark]

Re: May 21 2011

I choose not to believe in something that goat herders wrote about thousands of years ago.

Science has proven enough about the universe and how it works...and even the things that science has not explained, it certainly still doesn't point in any direction of there being a "higher power". That said, there is no catastrophic event that will happen in the next 3 weeks that could possibly end life. Period.

In 2012 the sun will flip its magnetic poles, possibly letting out a good sized solar flare. Even in the minute chance of it hitting Earth directly, and the smaller chance of it being the biggest damn solar flare ever...the most it could do is knock out power for a day or two. You'll live.

[~kitty~]

Re: May 21 2011

I know this was asked a long time ago, but the significance of 21 is that 7 x 3 is 21. 7 and 3 are those lucky numbers.

[Syhto]

Re: May 21 2011

hey guys i have everything figured out follow MEEEEeeee

[Aldentron]

Re: May 21 2011

You cant avoid death, no restart button. Is it because you think you have it all figured out and everyone that still believes in God is a fuccing idiot? Are your beliefs 100% supported by facts and facts alone, therefore if the facts do not add up to religious beliefs, they don't apply? Or do you find religion as a crutch for the human mind, and believe only the weak willed follow religion?

First of all I want to commend you for not allowing your text to be tainted by your passion on the subject. It is hard to argue with some one over core beliefs without becoming upset, as demonstrated by almost everyone in this thread, Christian, atheist, or otherwise.

The one thing that I believe in is energy, and this is what I believe "God" to be. I don't believe God is a thinking entity, I don't believe God can speak or even communicate with people. Therefor, my "God" is myself, as well as every other living thing.

I believe that heaven is simply being alive, as is hell. I don't think that me not being able to go to paradise after I die is sad, because everyday I am striving to make the world around me paradise. This is my idea on the meaning of life.


My attitude towards religion is that for some people, it IS good. The Bible IS deserving of the nickname The Good Book, and so are the Quran and the Vedas and any other religious text, really. It's comparable to Aesop's Fables. No one can prove that they actually happened, but the stories did provide you with a good moral to live your life by, didn't they?

The problem I have with Christianity is that it teaches the word of The Bible as reality. God never said "Homosexual marriages shall not be allowed." Some zealot with homophobic support did. God never said "The world will end on the _________th anniversary of the great floods faced by Noah." Some zealot with a superiority complex did.

So I have no problem with Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, etc. My only problem lies with its interpreters who choose to push their interpretations on others.

If it makes you feel better, I hate pseudo-intellectual atheists as much as I hate evangelists.

[Reach]

Re: May 21 2011

Wow @ thread.

The 'Mayan 2012' doomsday is based on a misinterpretation of the calendar. It's a rubbish concept, and so is this one. People have been wrong more times about the end of the world than is countable. Why would they be right this time?

Anyway...

What im trying to say is, for the ppl that aren't religious or don't believe in nothing at all, according to your beliefs nothing is going to happen to you once you die, from what I can see. You go nowhere, you wait nowhere, you will be absolutely nothing. Basically. Isn't that sad in a sense? Don't you find it sort of disheartening that you will be nothing when you pass away, that you have nothing ahead of you but darkness? You cant avoid death, no restart button. Is it because you think you have it all figured out and everyone that still believes in God is a fuccing idiot? Are your beliefs 100% supported by facts and facts alone, therefore if the facts do not add up to religious beliefs, they don't apply? Or do you find religion as a crutch for the human mind, and believe only the weak willed follow religion?

I don't believe I go into 'darkness' when I pass away. I don't think it's sad either, particularly because it's not possible to be sad about something if I cease to exist.

The best analogy I can make towards what I believe happens when we die is to compare it to before you were born. Do you remember the 13.7 billion years the universe was around, before you were born? Did it bother you that you weren't alive? Do you remember any darkness?

No. You simply did not exist.

I don't think everyone that believes in God is an idiot. People that follow religion are not necessarily weak willed. I simply tend not to believe in extravagant claims when there is a lack of evidence to support them.

The facts we do have tell us that when you die, your brain is dead. Modern neuroscience shows us that who we are derives itself from our brain. Therefore, there's no real logical leap from dying and being brain dead to not existing anymore. They're one and the same.

The giant logical leap comes from claiming that somehow, after being brain dead, you continue to exist.

When there is evidence to support such a claim, I'll believe it.


If anything, knowing that this life is all I have is something that motivates me to make the most of every day and cherish everything that I have.

Cheers

Is that an out-lier group or is 100 suddenly not the average IQ by definition

The average IQ is only 100 by definition based on the population it was normed on (e.g. if you normalize the test in the USA, the average is 100 based on the average performance of americans only).

The points on the chart are countries, not people. Many countries have vastly sub-100 IQs in reference to the USA or England because of impoverished conditions and lack of education.

Education and IQ are both negatively correlated with religiosity. That is, the more informed you become, the less likely you are to be religious.

That doesn't necessarily mean that because someone is religious, they're stupid, but it is an existing trend.

[Mans0n]

Re: May 21 2011

To all those people that disagree and say this is bs, What are you going to tell yourself when millions of people (christians) suddenly disappear from the earth? Are you going to lie to yourself to make whatever you believe sound right?

Or are you going to realize how foolish you have been for not opening yours eyes sooner, to the Actual truth?
Because If I were to be left behind like a lot of you people will at this rate, Well That would be the ultimate facepalm.

One that you don't recover from. Since no vast amount of logical and reasoning will get you out of the hell your going to be living in.

[Dorby]

Re: May 21 2011

To all those people that disagree and say this is bs, What are you going to tell yourself when millions of people (christians) suddenly disappear from the earth? Are you going to lie to yourself to make whatever you believe sound right?

Or are you going to realize how foolish you have been for not opening yours eyes sooner, to the Actual truth?
Because If I were to be left behind like a lot of you people will at this rate, Well That would be the ultimate facepalm.

One that you don't recover from. Since no vast amount of logical and reasoning will get you out of the hell your going to be living in.

Dude you are ****ing stupid lmao I don't ever want to hear you brag about how you think you are smart ever again with posts like these... Not to mention the same post could be used by an unreligious poster as a completely sarcastic viewpoint of what an insane Christian would believe...

[rushyrulz]

Re: May 21 2011

. Do you remember the 13.7 billion years the universe was around, before you were born? Did it bother you that you weren't alive? Do you remember any darkness?

No. You simply did not exist.

I was about to make this exact point, but you beat me to the punch. You can't perceive pleasure or pain if your brain is inactive. That's where the soul allegedly comes in and why some people believe in a heaven and hell.

However, the soul isn't a physical part of your body, so it may as well just be as mythological as every other religious belief (or not).

To all those people that disagree and say this is bs, What are you going to tell yourself when millions of people (christians) suddenly disappear from the earth? Are you going to lie to yourself to make whatever you believe sound right?

Or are you going to realize how foolish you have been for not opening yours eyes sooner, to the Actual truth?
Because If I were to be left behind like a lot of you people will at this rate, Well That would be the ultimate facepalm.

One that you don't recover from. Since no vast amount of logical and reasoning will get you out of the hell your going to be living in.

I lol'd.

What are you going to tell yourself when the highly unlikely event of a massive flood over the entire Earth (not even remotely possible by the way, sorry) DOESN'T happen and everyone rightfully calling doomsday prediction #4037c complete bullshit is actually right and you're left QQing in the corner because all the christian doomsayers were wrong once again...?

Also if you're talking about Jesus coming down from the heavens and sweeping up all the Christians in the world, I'm sorry you believe that's going to happen since it defies all the physical laws of science that have been shown to be true. And that deserves a double dosage of lol.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: May 21 2011

Every damn conspiracy is a myth. 2000-Y2K(didn't happen), 2006-666(Satan coming out the ground and dominating the Earth, didn't happen) Upcoming date(Not going to happen), 2012( NOT GOING TO HAPPEN). Anyways, done with this thread. Shouldn't have been made in the 1st place.

Oh also 2008 when the sun was suppose to suck in the Earth and we will blow up? That didn't happen either.

[kommisar]

Re: May 21 2011

time is but a measure invented by man. such a catastrophic event would never be according to man's illusion.

[rushyrulz]

Re: May 21 2011

We didn't invent time out of thin air, we tell time like we do as an accurate chart if you will of the earth's rotation and revolution cycle that occurs naturally.

But I like that point :P

[~kitty~]

Re: May 21 2011

time is but a measure invented by man. such a catastrophic event would never be according to man's illusion.

This.

[Izzy]

Re: May 21 2011

We didn't invent time out of thin air, we tell time like we do as an accurate chart if you will of the earth's rotation and revolution cycle that occurs naturally.

But I like that point :P

Why do people do this. Why are you trying to rebut a claim that he never made.

I'm fully confident that kommiser understands that our date-time system is developed from the time it takes to orbit the sun.