People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

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  • Reach
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    • Jun 2003
    • 7471

    #31
    Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

    Thanks Arch0wl.

    Going to add some more here. Did my undergraduate major in Neuro and Psych.


    Autism is a pervasive developmental disorder. Most are mentally retarded and have sleep disturbances. They have impaired social interaction skills, communication abilities and engage in restricted, repetitive behaviors. This disorder is not an excuse for anything; it's a neurologically based disorder that onsets before the age of three.

    Autism is not the same thing as Aspergers; people with Aspergers are of normal intelligence and show no delay in language development. The reason people equate these two disorders is because they're both Autism SPECTRUM disorders; however, they are very different in manifestation.


    ADHD is also a brain based disorder that interferes with self regulation. It is formally known as ADHD; ADD is incorrect, so please don't use this term and correct people that do. There are subtypes of ADHD; inattentive subtype and hyperactive-impulsive subtype, which leads people to believe there is a distinction between ADHD and ADD when rather the latter is incorrect.

    It has a strong genetic component; heritability is estimated at 0.8, and MZ twins have concordance rates of approximately 0.7. Symptoms onset early before the age of 7 and persist usually through life. 50% of people with ADHD repeat a grade, 35% drop out of school completely. More than half have co-morbid learning disabilities and 95% underachieve given their IQ.

    This disorder is given a lot of bad rep, in particular because it can be hard to diagnose. However, that doesn't mean it isn't real or that it isn't a big deal. ADHD can be hard to diagnose because the symptomatology overlaps with ODD, CD, Mood disorders (Depression and Bipolar disorder in particular), as well as most Anxiety disorders, many Tic disorders, Asperger's and Learning disorders.

    It can also be hard to treat. The best treatment combines medication and behavioral therapy, however, most only take medication. Also, if the medication is taken at the wrong dosage, it can exacerbate the effects of the disorder or cause other problems.

    As such, for most people with ADHD, their problems are much greater than simply being unable to self-regulate. This disorder is never an excuse; it's only an excuse when people are misdiagnosed as having ADHD when they do not, or when people without ADHD self diagnose as ADHD.

    Whenever dealing with psychological disorders, people should only rely on diagnosis from psychologists. Do not attempt to self diagnose.
    Last edited by Reach; 12-29-2010, 11:16 AM.

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    • bmah
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      • Oct 2003
      • 8448

      #32
      Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

      Originally posted by Arch0wl
      I was diagnosed with ADHD in my Sophomore year of college. I usually have to sit down for about 3-4 hours to do reading assignments that average people will take 1-2 hours to do, and I have to make sure wherever I am is in complete silence, that if there is music it is rhythmically uninteresting and that there are no vocals (or if there are, that I can't understand them), that there is no internet, and that there are few people walking around.
      Part of this topic's goal is to shed some light on these disorders, because we want to be able to properly differentiate those with actual symptoms, and give a bit more credibility to those who do have them. Thanks for sharing.

      Originally posted by Reach
      As such, for most people with ADHD, their problems are much greater than simply being unable to self-regulate. This disorder is never an excuse; it's only an excuse when people are misdiagnosed as having ADHD when they do not, or when people without ADHD self diagnose as ADHD.

      Whenever dealing with psychological disorders, people should only rely on diagnosis from psychologists. Do not attempt to self diagnose.
      And of course, this is what I've been getting at. On the internet, text can only reveal so much about a condition, if anything at all. So a lot of people who have various other issues in life seem to want to relate them to a self-diagnosis on one of these disorders. But let's move beyond accountability. How does one get any feeling of accomplishment in life if every reason/excuse is accompanied by the mentioning of a disorder?
      Now even people genuinely having these disorders would be better off to focus on their accomplishments and goals rather than making regrets that all point to one source. If I had one of these disorders, I'd try my best to get back up on my feet rather than stating my condition for every stumble I make, even if said condition did hinder my mental capabilities. I really do admire the way Arch0wl is trying to socially present himself, and at the same time he does not need to constantly mention his condition for his setbacks.
      Last edited by bmah; 12-29-2010, 09:55 PM.

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      • Nyokou
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        • Apr 2005
        • 4246

        #33
        Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

        Originally posted by agonist
        First off I would like to point out that ADD/ADHD is a pretty big scam for the most part. I'm not saying that there aren't kids out there benefitting from amphetamines but what about the long term affects? It's basically the equivalent of being fed reasonable doses of methamphetamine your whole entire life. Are good grades really worth forming a lifelong (for some) addiction to amphetamines? That crap wrecks your serotonin and dopamine levels leaving you an emotional/unstable mess. Why is America virtually the only place around the world handing out amphetamines to kids who can't pay attention in class? Thats a pretty easy question to answer, americans will do basically anything for the easy way out... even if it means wiring your kid up on amphetamines, pretty sad. ADD/ADHD is an absolute joke in comparison to autism spectrum disorders, seriously. ASD's are extremely hard to live with and anyone with a true ASD shouldn't be taken lightly
        I 100% agree with you. My mom found out about my youngest brother having ADHD when we moved to Virginia and by that time she had been working at her job (secretary for a drug rehab clinic) for a while. Anyway, so my bro was diagnosed and his teachers and doctor recommended that he take the pills because he had a "really bad case" of ADHD.

        What did my mom say? She said **** no. Every day she was seeing teens come into the clinic where she works at - a bunch of teens addicted to various drugs and a good portion of them had been taking ADHD meds since they were kids which they claimed was the reason they started experimenting with more drugs.

        Anyway, these people (teachers and doctor) literally harassed my mom for months with this bull**** of trying to get my bro to take the pills. But my mom never gave in. She still hasn't, 7 years later. However, unfortunately him plus my other brother who was also diagnosed with the same problem were both put in classes with the special needs kids for a couple of years in the beginning. However, because VA's public schools are infinitely better than FL's **** schools, my brothers have steadily improved in school because they got the help they needed.

        One is in 9th grade, all normal classes, and an A student.

        The other is in 8th grade, still struggling a bit with reading (he takes two reading classes, no electives unfortunately...) but he's improving a lot as well. When we got to VA, he was in 1st grade and could not read at all. Literally could not read anything, didn't even know the alphabet. And because it's been hard for him to focus, and he started speaking AND reading at late ages, he's still behind in reading skills by 2 years I think. So he's at a 6th grade reading level.

        Anyway~ yeah, I'm proud of my brothers for getting as far as they did without having to go on those pills. My boyfriend's younger half-brother (7 yrs old atm) has ADHD as well... it's soooo bad, reminds me of my youngest brother when he was the same age haha. BUT he takes pills. I personally think they don't even work, the kid still acts crazy sometimes, but when they do work... he kind of just becomes a zombie, he kind of acts weird too sometimes. Just cause his mom doesn't want to deal with him, he takes the pills. It's pretty sad... oh, and might I add that he's not doing well in school either despite taking the pills for a few years now. He doesn't spend time on his homework at all, he rushes through it a lot, because he's addicted to video games. Again, his mom's fault. SMH. Anyway, I can go on and on and on about how badly she's raising him compared to MY mom but I guess it's rude.

        Still, there's no denying that she's wrong and I'm right.
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        • LythincaMan
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          • Aug 2006
          • 661

          #34
          Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

          For all you guys "bashing" disabilities such as ADHD and ADD.

          I have sever, low functioning ADHD. ADHD isn't a "bull****" disability, and is fully recognized by the Canadian Center for Disabilities as being a cognitive impairment.

          To understand ADHD, you would have to have it. You can't bash talk a disorder without experiencing it.

          There are some doctors that push amphetamines such as Aderall XR, and others. I used to take Aderall. (I was perscribed aderall, but it causes me to stay awake for long periods of time and causes me to sweat a lot. So I stopped taking it.)

          I'd go more in depth about my experiences with ADHD, but I don't really feel like it.

          Lets just say; its hard to focus, my brain runs at 10000 miles a minute. Even the most interesting subjects become a lost cause sometimes, due to the sheer fact that I lose focus.

          Now, thats not all. In a class of 40 people in my college, I tend to stick out. Why? Well, I'm the only person thats rocking back and forth in their chair, itchy to walk around, is tapping fingers, chewing nails and being generally off task. All because I lose focus and the brain just wonders.

          The most unappealing matter with ADHD, is the fact that; I could have something explained me to me in a way that is so simple, and I'd forget it in a few seconds. Not because I don't understand; but because I lose focus half way through.

          I strongly agree with how Arch feels when studying and such.

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          • ichliebekase
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            • May 2006
            • 3213

            #35
            Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

            I don't think the point of the thread was to "bash" ADHD or any other disabilities of the mind. I think it was to point out that many people use those disabilities to get whatever they want in life when they either don't have severe cases or they are misdiagnosed just to put a label on why people have problems.
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            • LythincaMan
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              • Aug 2006
              • 661

              #36
              Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

              I see it as bashing.

              Whether its bashing the disability, or the method to help treat it.

              It's just my opinion.

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              • Andrew Mitchell
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                • Jul 2008
                • 1135

                #37
                Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                Originally posted by ichliebekase
                I don't think the point of the thread was to "bash" ADHD or any other disabilities of the mind. I think it was to point out that many people use those disabilities to get whatever they want in life when they either don't have severe cases or they are misdiagnosed just to put a label on why people have problems.
                many girls i know, got pregnent just to get a free house and money with no intention of ever working, people abuse the system all the time who gives a ****

                smart people and politicians are the biggest abusers anyway.

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                • ddr_f4n
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 3807

                  #38
                  Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                  Welcome to a world where everything is considered some kind of disorder.

                  Yes, we all have some kind of disorder. We just don't know the name of it yet :V
                  Out Now!


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