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  • sakura080789
    Rapture Universe
    • Feb 2007
    • 1751

    #16
    Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

    I myself have ADD but I never use it as an excuse for anything. It is such a mild case for me it couldn't be used for one anyway.

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    • ichliebekase
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • May 2006
      • 3213

      #17
      Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

      Originally posted by welsh_girl
      Telling people thay have ADHD/ADD etc. I think is thrown around way too easily. A child is slightly hyper and they're slapped with ADHD and given pills.

      So, yes, with something like ADHD, I think the person with it will take advantage and so will the parents if said person is under a certain age as an excuse to get away with certain behaviour.

      I'm not at all saying this is true for every single person, I think it's few and far between, but does happen.
      Bolded part is the biggest part I agree with. I can't say too much about the entire OP because I don't see epilepsy and other ones thrown around ever, but I do see ADHD and ADD thrown around every day in real life. The biggest thing I see is children who claim they have ADHD and ADD only say that to get the pills and abuse them. I have a friend whose cousin actually does that and I know a lot of people I graduated with who did that. They'd sell the pills for profit because they bullsh*t their way into getting the pills in the first place. It's all pretty disappointing.


      Btw, this could possibly be a CT thread ;] dunno why it's only in CC.
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      • Evnoir
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        • Sep 2008
        • 978

        #18
        Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

        I've heard cancer as an excuse lol.

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        • Without A Contraceptive
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2007
          • 212

          #19
          Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

          theres a reason why adhd whatever exists so predominately in north america and didnt start popping up till the 50s

          crap "hands off" parenting. its a straight scam yo no one Needs pills to focus, if you think you do then youre wrong

          whenever anyone uses their so called disorder as an excuse i get a bit bothered

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          • agonist
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2010
            • 75

            #20
            Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

            First off I would like to point out that ADD/ADHD is a pretty big scam for the most part. I'm not saying that there aren't kids out there benefitting from amphetamines but what about the long term affects? It's basically the equivalent of being fed reasonable doses of methamphetamine your whole entire life. Are good grades really worth forming a lifelong (for some) addiction to amphetamines? That crap wrecks your serotonin and dopamine levels leaving you an emotional/unstable mess. Why is America virtually the only place around the world handing out amphetamines to kids who can't pay attention in class? Thats a pretty easy question to answer, americans will do basically anything for the easy way out... even if it means wiring your kid up on amphetamines, pretty sad. ADD/ADHD is an absolute joke in comparison to autism spectrum disorders, seriously. ASD's are extremely hard to live with and anyone with a true ASD shouldn't be taken lightly

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            • AsphyxZero
              Banned
              • Oct 2010
              • 1823

              #21
              Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

              Originally posted by LoneW0lf
              This kid at my school is in a wheelchair(his fault, he electurcuted himself while on a telephone pole) and uses his wheelchair as the biggest excuse for everything. He misses class sometimes, or he is really late and says he had trouble getting there. He talks ****,(he was in class and the teacher ask what slang was, he said "That's what those dumb black people use"), he just does **** like that because he knows no one will hit him.

              He's a cool guy and all, but he just takes advantage of his disability.
              He sounds really cool yeah. I'd push the mother ****er down a flight of stairs (oops he's late for class again).

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              • ichliebekase
                FFR Simfile Author
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                • May 2006
                • 3213

                #22
                Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                Just thought of this. It's kind of like parents are saying "I don't want to parent, here, have some pills and chill out."
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                • AsphyxZero
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1823

                  #23
                  Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                  Originally posted by ichliebekase
                  Just thought of this. It's kind of like parents are saying "I don't want to parent, here, have some pills and chill out."
                  Unfortunately, I was kinda thrown under this. ADHD meds only really do one thing, make you boring.

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                  • Crashfan3
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 2937

                    #24
                    Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                    A friend of a friend of mine has OCD and for some reason she thinks that because of it she's allowed to be a complete bitch in a social situation.

                    For example: Three of my friends and I are sitting at a four-person table at a restaurant when she shows up and nonchalantly tries to push me out of my seat with the excuse that she has to sit by the window.

                    Usually I just find an excuse to leave when I know she's coming.

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                    • flashpantss
                      Party Hard
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1310

                      #25
                      Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                      I know people with OCD and ADHD. But they never use it as an excuse for anything. But unfortunately there are people who will use it as an excuse to get something they want/need.
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                      • LoneW0lf
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                        • May 2008
                        • 1800

                        #26
                        Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                        Originally posted by AsphyxZero
                        He sounds really cool yeah. I'd push the mother ****er down a flight of stairs (oops he's late for class again).
                        I kinda wish you went to me school. I kinda want to see someone just hit him so he stops taking advantage of his disability.
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                        • Rubin0
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1276

                          #27
                          Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                          Originally posted by customstuff
                          Nice try, but ADHD is Hyperactivity. You're thinking of ADD. (Unless you were so hyper that you got bored of this already and found something different)
                          My girlfriend actually has ADD but it's really not even noticeable at all and she doesn't use it as an excuse for anything. Quite the opposite actually.

                          I'm on your side on the topic of very mild things. For example, if it's treated easily with a pill, don't be like "oops, guess I forgot my pill today!"
                          On the other hand, it's a bit harsh if it's full out autism or another thing that people are born with and can't help whatsoever. You obviously aren't going to give a person with autism a grade 12 math exam and say "Pfft. Not my problem." when they fail...

                          Basically, I do agree with you, but there are exceptions.

                          Sorry, bro, but the correct diagnosis for a person with ADD is ADHD whether they are hyperactive or not.
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                          • Bill Kaulitz
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 467

                            #28
                            Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                            I've been medically tested over 5 times for ADD and cognative problems. >_> I have them both....Let me tell you it's not that great. I can't even remember what happened yesterday...and I learn **** very slow. Makes me mad and probably why I always get fired from jobs... I have a very very low attention span. Even when playing FFR, my mind wanders. Makes me angry I can't pay attention to anything for more then a minute. Or that I can't learn as fast as others.


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                            • welsh_girl
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1365

                              #29
                              Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                              Originally posted by ichliebekase
                              Just thought of this. It's kind of like parents are saying "I don't want to parent, here, have some pills and chill out."
                              ..
                              Last edited by welsh_girl; 12-29-2010, 10:57 AM.

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                              • Arch0wl
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 6344

                                #30
                                Re: People using disabilities as pitiful excuses

                                This topic is full of ignorance. It's even worse when those who try to correct others are, themselves, wrong about what they are correcting.

                                - ADHD is the proper term for "ADD". The latter is a colloquial term for the former.

                                - It is not an inability to pay attention. Rather, it is to have a brain which runs out of stimulation faster than other people. In other words, to have ADHD means you have a brain which runs low on some neurotransmitter (I forget which) faster than other people. Perhaps Reach can elaborate here.

                                - Elaborating on the above, people who have ADHD are not necessarily inattentive. They can play a video game for 8 hours straight. What they can't do is study boring things for 8 hours, unless they find a way to make that boring thing interesting and stimulating. You may think this is an excuse. Realize though that just because the wording sounds easily refutable, neuroscience proves it is not; you are extrapolating from your own case. This is akin to living in an era with pre-modern medicine and thinking that something like Asthma was an excuse because they say "I run out of breath faster." See: this article on hyperfocus.

                                - ADHD is, properly speaking, a learning disability; it is not in the same category as a leg injury, nor is it in the same category as psychotic disorders like Schizophrenia. It is a neurobehavioral developmental disorder. This is not jargon for the sake of jargon -- the wording is important. For more, see the classification of mental disorders

                                - There is a neurological basis for ADHD. In other words, it is "real". See: this article. See also: this PET scan.

                                I was diagnosed with ADHD in my Sophomore year of college. I usually have to sit down for about 3-4 hours to do reading assignments that average people will take 1-2 hours to do, and I have to make sure wherever I am is in complete silence, that if there is music it is rhythmically uninteresting and that there are no vocals (or if there are, that I can't understand them), that there is no internet, and that there are few people walking around. This video is a pretty good approximation of the experience when I do not account for those factors.

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