You ever hear something you weren't supposed to?

[HoneyMelonCalibrator]

Re: You ever hear something you weren't supposed to?

Have you sent "John" the anonymous tip yet?

[Rubin0]

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Edit: Also she cheated on him. Idiot. She asked for this to happen.

Did I miss something? I thought the OP made it clear that the girlfriend slept with these guys after she broke up with her boyfriend after she found out he had been cheating on her. amiright?

And honestly two guys in two weeks? Why is that such a bad thing? The Jersey Shore guys have a different girl in their beds every single night and they are making millions of dollars for being "awesome". Say the girl went out every weekend she was single and met a guy each time. What the hell is so slutty about that? Honestly. Has anyone heard of rebound sex? You hear your significant other has been banging a lot of chicks and then climbing into bed with you. I think I would be pretty pissed and I would probably have some revenge sex, too.

Edit: Just to expand on how pissed off this post is making me. Pregnancies happen. To women. Not men. And they are freaking scary especially when you don't have someone to help you. This girl is probably scared ****less. She made a mistake after she found out her boyfriend is the biggest douche on the planet. Now she is possibly pregnant with this douche bags baby or the other two Joe Schmo's she had sex with to get back at him. She might be scared out of her mind. She A: stays with douche bag who might actually be a decent father even if he continues to cheat on her, or B: is a single mother with no money, no job, and no experience being a mother. Obviously, not getting a blood test is a selfish move, but you really need to consider the fact that the girl is scared before you judge her.

Before you start ruining people's lives because you are too busy worrying about everyone else's feelings, why don't you consider the baby here. Even if the kid ends up being his, once he finds out his girlfriend is a "slut" he might kick her out anyway. Just having people mentioning that your girlfriend is a slut is enough to make most guys fly the coop.

[eastsideman09]

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Before you start ruining people's lives because you are too busy worrying about everyone else's feelings, why don't you consider the baby here.

The baby really is my main concern, as far as the moral disturbances go. I don't care if Suzie was stupid enough to take John back, or how irresponsible she was with the unprotected sex. What really irks me is that the child will potentially grow up without ever knowing it's real father, and that could so easily be prevented with a blood test. Suzie can just as easily shack up with the biological father if John kicks her out if it's not his, and John may as well be just as willing to care for the child with the knowledge that it's not his. But the fact that he doesn't have that knowledge or closure, or rather that he's been purposely shielded from it, is what makes it ****ed up.

I don't even have to meddle and lives are potentially being "ruined".

EDIT: I don't know how I missed this....

I don't get it. She deserves to be on Springer because she had sex with two different guys while she was single but he's the one that is being portrayed as a victim even though he has cheated on her numerous times? I mean, both of them seem like pretty amoral individuals so let's not keep pushing that double standard.

I'm not sure how you can equate cheating in a relationship as fickle as and with as much depth as high school couples (no offense) to someone forcing a child into someone else's life and keeping them completely in the dark about their biological/legal/etc responsibilities for that child, AND forcing the child into a life where it will never know it's true parents. Hell, it will be raised without any reason to think otherwise.

All that is assuming that the child is not John's, of course. I'm not defending cheating in any relationship, but what she's doing is a lot worse than that.

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I talked to one of Suzie's friends about it, one who was there when I originally found out. It seems the consensus between the friends is to kind of turn the other cheek about the potential of the child not being Johns. As it stands now, John and Suzie are happy, John wants to take care of the child, and the kid will grow up with loving parents. I won't say they all think there's "nothing" wrong with that, but to them, it really doesn't seem to be a bad situation for the child, and I can agree with that for the most part.

"Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?" was my response though. Maybe it is.

[psychoangel691]

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And honestly two guys in two weeks? Why is that such a bad thing? The Jersey Shore guys have a different girl in their beds every single night and they are making millions of dollars for being "awesome". Say the girl went out every weekend she was single and met a guy each time. What the hell is so slutty about that? Honestly. Has anyone heard of rebound sex? You hear your significant other has been banging a lot of chicks and then climbing into bed with you. I think I would be pretty pissed and I would probably have some revenge sex, too.

Edit: Just to expand on how pissed off this post is making me. Pregnancies happen. To women. Not men. And they are freaking scary especially when you don't have someone to help you. This girl is probably scared ****less. She made a mistake after she found out her boyfriend is the biggest douche on the planet. Now she is possibly pregnant with this douche bags baby or the other two Joe Schmo's she had sex with to get back at him. She might be scared out of her mind. She A: stays with douche bag who might actually be a decent father even if he continues to cheat on her, or B: is a single mother with no money, no job, and no experience being a mother. Obviously, not getting a blood test is a selfish move, but you really need to consider the fact that the girl is scared before you judge her.

Why is it a bad thing? Um because unprotected sex is irresponsible especially if you aren't prepared for a child. Are pregnancies scary, yea a little bit but there are millions of women that go through it alone. It's not that friggin scary I'm going through it it's not like it's a terminal illness or something. And made A mistake? 3 different guys no protection yea that's just stupid. Sorry but you'll get no sympathy card from me for this chick.
Oh btw there's tons of assistance programs for pregnant women/ women with children. You can get free insurance which pays for EVERYTHING for the pregnancy and delivery. People give away free baby stuff everywhere. There's wic for food and stuff you need and there's housing assistance. There's no excuse and the guy has the right to know if the kid isn't his.

I talked to one of Suzie's friends about it, one who was there when I originally found out. It seems the consensus between the friends is to kind of turn the other cheek about the potential of the child not being Johns. As it stands now, John and Suzie are happy, John wants to take care of the child, and the kid will grow up with loving parents. I won't say they all think there's "nothing" wrong with that, but to them, it really doesn't seem to be a bad situation for the child, and I can agree with that for the most part.

"Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?" was my response though. Maybe it is.

The problem is if he suspects the kid isn't his at all he's not going to treat that baby right. My father doesn't believe the youngest of my brothers is his and he has never treated him the same as he has myself or my other brother. Sounds like all of Suzie's "friends" don't give a **** about what's right and figure hey now she's got a free ride. It's ****ed up.

[eastsideman09]

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The problem is if he suspects the kid isn't his at all he's not going to treat that baby right. My father doesn't believe the youngest of my brothers is his and he has never treated him the same as he has myself or my other brother. Sounds like all of Suzie's "friends" don't give a **** about what's right and figure hey now she's got a free ride. It's ****ed up.

I pretty much said the same thing to the one I was talking to today. But she told me John's convinced it's his as well, which further led me to believe that he still doesn't know of her sleeping around.

But I mean, does he really need to? If he did a little back tracking with how long she's been pregnant, he might notice a question mark in the time frame. The notion that that may not have even crossed his mind further led me to believe that he's a dip****, although he is determined to raise the child as of right now.

[Rubin0]

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I'm trying to figure out how everyone knows 100% sure that she had uprotected sex with these two random guys. A lot of this seems like rumor/gossip.

And psychoangel, while I agree with you that it is not a terminal illness and there ARE options, those options run out eventually. It is very difficult for a single mother to continue an education and to rise past the poverty line unless she comes from an already wealthy family that is willing to help her. While I have never been pregnant myself I have grown up with a single mother who struggled her entire life to give me a decent one. And plenty of people have gossiped about her since I can remember that was based on little to no fact. There is a lot of stigma against single women with children, especially when they don't have the resources to raise them on their own. This girl seems very young, very naive, and very selfish. She isn't considering the options there are out there and she probably does not even know about them. I am not condoning what she is doing, but it's easy to see why she wouldn't want to do this by herself.

[welsh_girl]

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I'd tell all.

It's sick how many Males are unknowingly(sp?) bringing up a child that isn't theres. And it could end up being a **** situation for the child in years to come if "John" ends up not being it's Dad and just walks away etc.

She got herself into this mess.

[psychoangel691]

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I pretty much said the same thing to the one I was talking to today. But she told me John's convinced it's his as well, which further led me to believe that he still doesn't know of her sleeping around.

But I mean, does he really need to? If he did a little back tracking with how long she's been pregnant, he might notice a question mark in the time frame. The notion that that may not have even crossed his mind further led me to believe that he's a dip****, although he is determined to raise the child as of right now.

John's convinced now but wait till that baby actually comes out. He probably doesn't question it because they were only on a 2 week break and with pregnancy you can't really determine the exact conception date. What they do is go by the 1st day of your last period and go 40 weeks for a due date. It's a tough situation it really is if there were no child involved I'd say no he doesn't need to know that she slept around but the fact is there is a child involved and that child's life can be affected terribly by this.

I'm trying to figure out how everyone knows 100% sure that she had uprotected sex with these two random guys. A lot of this seems like rumor/gossip.

And psychoangel, while I agree with you that it is not a terminal illness and there ARE options, those options run out eventually. It is very difficult for a single mother to continue an education and to rise past the poverty line unless she comes from an already wealthy family that is willing to help her. While I have never been pregnant myself I have grown up with a single mother who struggled her entire life to give me a decent one. And plenty of people have gossiped about her since I can remember that was based on little to no fact. There is a lot of stigma against single women with children, especially when they don't have the resources to raise them on their own. This girl seems very young, very naive, and very selfish. She isn't considering the options there are out there and she probably does not even know about them. I am not condoning what she is doing, but it's easy to see why she wouldn't want to do this by herself.

If she's questioning the other two guys being the father than semen got into her by them somehow. Otherwise why would she even question either one being the father?

It's not even about "options" such as abortion because frankly I'm against it. There is always adoption though that doesn't disappear but still that's beside the point. It WAS difficult being a single mother in the past yes, but now there's so much help out there it's insane. The excuse of not being able to finish school is bull****. If she's still in high school there's online high schools now. If she's going to go to college you can do that online too. I'm going to school online and I can do it any time of day I want. My stepmother's daughter has 5 kids she was 16 when she had her 1st. She finished school online and is a college professor now. The assistance programs out there for pregnant women is insane. You can even get a free nurse that comes to your home and helps you with the baby for the first few months and no I'm not kidding I have paperwork here.

Point being there's no excuses anymore the resources are there, she just needs to look. But it seems to me like she just wants to trap this guy because he has a steady income and she doesn't want to take on the responsibility. Being a mother does take a lot and it takes a lot on your own but it's more than doable and there's no excuse.

Sorry but yes I am a bit bitter when it comes to people that get themselves into situations like these then can't even do what's right. You know what if you can't handle the possible consequences don't have sex at all. Or at least don't be retarded and get on birth control (which you can get free) and use a friggin condom.

[Urh]

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Abort suzie's child with an ancient chinese herbal concoction.

[Mulie]

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Urh brings up a good point. The real moral dilemma here's not in the reciprocated scumbaggery between Suzie and John; it's that a person will be generated due to related events and be raised in an inhospitable environment. Having gained this knowledge, eastsideman, will you take it upon yourself to forcefully abort the infant?

[eastsideman09]

Re: You ever hear something you weren't supposed to?

no but my stairs will

[eastsideman09]

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just kidding if suzie wants to fall down my stairs thats her choice

[eastsideman09]

Re: You ever hear something you weren't supposed to?

just kidding i dont even have stairs

[rushyrulz]

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Options in the order in which I would do first:

1. Do nothing, it's not my problem, I shouldn't have heard it in the first place, I'll pretend I didn't hear it at all.
2. Give Suzie an anonymous letter (Typed, so no handwriting discrimination) to get her thinking.
3. Talk to Suzie, but don't be forceful.
4. Give John an anonymous letter ONLY if Suzie doesn't show any sign of wanting to tell him herself.
5. Talk to John about it.

I find it easiest to just do nothing and let them sort out their own problem. It's nothing fatally wrong like Suzie's gonna stab John, but I believe it's up to the person who ****ed up (namely, suzie) to un-**** up the situation.

Also, she shouldn't be telling all her friends if she doesn't want **** flying all over the place in the end... Seems like she's just reaching out for help. I don't think she wants it from you though, east. You should stay out.