The right to cheat.

[bmah]

Re: The right to cheat.

^ looool that's quite amusing right there

cool story bro

[Crazy_Biker]

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Definitely the stick.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with the stick as well.

[MrRubix]

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Blah blah blah.

It's called not being a pussy.

I'm not saying that "making your own approach" isn't a challenge, necessarily. I'm just saying that it's a different metric. If you cheat at FFR, it only means you're good at cheating FFR. It doesn't mean you're actually good AT FFR.

It's more of a challenge to do things fairly. It's always harder to take tests when you're supposed to, or to be honest with professors as to why you're late when turning in an assignment, or to actually contribute to some group project/effort instead of freeriding. The point is that, in the end, you can honestly claim that you're ahead of the rest if you can do it all without resorting to tactics of lesser skill.

[dore]

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beating the system is one thing, like your example of card counting. there's nothing inherently illegal about having a good memory and a system that utilizes that. it's when you start sharing that knowledge so that others can abuse that power that it becomes a problem. if you can beat the system you should take advantage of that, but if everyone can beat the system then the system should (read: will hopefully, assuming the system cares) just change to exclude you.

[MrRubix]

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beating the system is one thing, like your example of card counting. there's nothing inherently illegal about having a good memory and a system that utilizes that. it's when you start sharing that knowledge so that others can abuse that power that it becomes a problem. if you can beat the system you should take advantage of that, but if everyone can beat the system then the system should (read: will hopefully, assuming the system cares) just change to exclude you.

Slippery slope, there. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD take advantage, even if it's just yourself. I personally don't consider card counting to be cheating, and so I see no problem with sharing that knowledge, because it's simply taking advantage of an inherently flawed game. It's not like you can tell someone "don't memorize so much" and say someone's cheating simply for being observant of public data.

However, say you had a method of getting test answers before a test. It doesn't mean it's right to exploit the system. Then again, it depends on what you value. I personally place GREAT value on self-accomplishment and achievement through skill and talent. I feel like circumventing things and taking the easy way out all the time is doing yourself a great disservice.

[NFD]

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I just want the percussion loser to post.

[Syhto]

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im not even going to read all of this but with all the effort people put into cheating, couldn't they just try to get better or w/e, or like, do something else

[Dr Tran]

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most of you dont even get what the op is trying to say and just assume that because he used ffr as an example he must only be talking about ffr

[dore]

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Slippery slope, there. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD take advantage, even if it's just yourself. I personally don't consider card counting to be cheating, and so I see no problem with sharing that knowledge, because it's simply taking advantage of an inherently flawed game. It's not like you can tell someone "don't memorize so much" and say someone's cheating simply for being observant of public data.

However, say you had a method of getting test answers before a test. It doesn't mean it's right to exploit the system. Then again, it depends on what you value. I personally place GREAT value on self-accomplishment and achievement through skill and talent. I feel like circumventing things and taking the easy way out all the time is doing yourself a great disservice.

Having the answers to a test before that test without the professor somehow telling you is given is going to be against some sort of academic code. Now, if a professor has a pattern (say every 5th piece of information he tells you will be verbatim on the test) and you figure out that pattern, then that's his fault for being predictable. But if you start telling everyone this pattern then you're actively working against him to circumvent the system (in which case he should change himself and not be so predictable).

[Fantasticone]

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I like to imagine that I am the greatest at this game and that everyone is cheering me on as I clack to one hundred percent on an easy-mode song. While AAAing all the abhorrent torrents of blue vomit

Easy man its only FFR lol.

[Spenner]

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You suck if you cheat.

Be good enough to be the best without cheats, children. (@the child/producer of the thread)

[garyiscool]

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If you've never cheated at anything your a goodie two shoes or A LIAR.

[MinaciousGrace]

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if you can cheat at something without getting caught then you deserve to get away with it nuff said

[MrRubix]

Re: The right to cheat.

Having the answers to a test before that test without the professor somehow telling you is given is going to be against some sort of academic code. Now, if a professor has a pattern (say every 5th piece of information he tells you will be verbatim on the test) and you figure out that pattern, then that's his fault for being predictable. But if you start telling everyone this pattern then you're actively working against him to circumvent the system (in which case he should change himself and not be so predictable).

Yeah, but dude that isn't CHEATING. There is a difference between being observant and going against the code/lying/deceiving/getting access to things that break the conditions of the task.

[DossarLX ODI]

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Yeah, but dude that isn't CHEATING. There is a difference between being observant and going against the code/lying/deceiving/getting access to things that break the conditions of the task.

Yeah it's just like how you used a stepfile viewer to practice individual parts of Death Piano. Because frankly I can't read the ending properly but because you could practice it you got a 379 score. That's mainly just observing the patterns, not something like double setup on vertex beta vrofl LOL