Epicly pissed

[xealix]

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Wow, thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. I hope you find a way to help your friend out NFD. . .
I personally don't see a camp like that working at all, They could never change what you really feel, only make you act like it's been changed. I rarely pray and when i do nothing happens anyways so i have no idea what the point is other then to let these kids know that they are hated by certain people in society. Its pretty ****ing bogus...
Im just happy no one i know is having to go through this.

[Izzy]

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They need these camps for christian people to bring them back to reality. I'm sure that would have a much higher chance of success. It's been done in the past to force people christian.

[Draigun]

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Wait, so if he doesn't want to go.. how about he just make as much trouble as he can when he gets there? If he doesn't want to be there, so what if he gets in trouble?

[NFD]

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Oh man, this just steams my carrots.

If I was Austen, I'd probably just sit quiety through the whole process, claim it made a difference, and then, when I turn 18, surprise my parents with a home video of me ****ing some guy up the ass.

Austen's my ex. He wasn't the guy in the relationship =X

[Redorigami]

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Austen's my ex. He wasn't the guy in the relationship =X

Even better.

[Oni-Paranoia]

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I feel bad, that crap is brainwashing.. (wish him gl)
Went on a retreat (3 days, no contact with anyone but the people on the retreat, no ipod, no games, no cell phones etc, everything church related)

Came back, I was all happy and what not.. 3 days later i snap back to reality and no im not atheist.. science ftw ;]

P.s. Went because my (ex)gf.. waste of $175; Food was bomb though

[retching oesophagus]

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Camps like these are just... ugh. Everyone there should just get it on like at the end of Perfume if they want to show those fundamentalist christian retards.

[championanwar]

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All of this is shameful. People are who they are.

[Ground_Breaker]

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Keep in mind everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but an opinion is educated, otherwise you're just assuming. It pisses me off when people just blindly say "OH ITS A CHOICE" because they don't have a ****ing clue. Sorry if I seem a bit mean but I find it all a bit offensive. If you have reasoning to back yourself up with I would gladly hear it.

I'm not blindly saying "OH IT'S A CHOICE" and I'm not trying to shove my opinion down anyone's throat. I see no benefit for you or me or anyone else by divulging more than just the surface of my beliefs for a few reasons:

1) This is chit-chat.
2) It never gets anywhere, because neither of us will ever be swayed.
3) It's not very interesting.

It says more about you than it does about me when I can't simply state my opinion without people like you, who needlessly defend themselves whenever they can, interjecting and saying, "WHOA WHOA WHOA WAIT JUST A MINUTE THERE BUD, YOU AREN'T EXACTLY EINSTEIN IF YOU DON'T THINK THE WAY I DO." This is just another of those silly issues on which people will most likely never agree, so I don't see how arguing about it will get anywhere.

On topic: The camps are still a stupid idea.

[kommisar[os]]

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i can see this turning into a religious debate....


also homosexuality isn't a choice, but it most certainly doesn't mean you're choosing to be hated by people since that comes with all beliefs. You choose to be christian i can guarantee you people will hate you for as many reasons as christians hate homosexuals.

[esupin]

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Jesus Camp

[championanwar]

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i can see this turning into a religious debate....


also homosexuality isn't a choice, but it most certainly doesn't mean you're choosing to be hated by people since that comes with all beliefs. You choose to be christian i can guarantee you people will hate you for as many reasons as christians hate homosexuals.

That beings said, being Christian doesn't mean that you hate gay people, there are just some people who take it to a dumb level. As you said, being gay isn't something you can turn on and off, and that's what alot of people don't seem to understand.

[Andrew Mitchell]

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Ignorant foreigners.

Yea foreigners are crazy

[Squeek]

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I'm not blindly saying "OH IT'S A CHOICE" and I'm not trying to shove my opinion down anyone's throat. I see no benefit for you or me or anyone else by divulging more than just the surface of my beliefs for a few reasons:

1) This is chit-chat.
2) It never gets anywhere, because neither of us will ever be swayed.
3) It's not very interesting.

It says more about you than it does about me when I can't simply state my opinion without people like you, who needlessly defend themselves whenever they can, interjecting and saying, "WHOA WHOA WHOA WAIT JUST A MINUTE THERE BUD, YOU AREN'T EXACTLY EINSTEIN IF YOU DON'T THINK THE WAY I DO." This is just another of those silly issues on which people will most likely never agree, so I don't see how arguing about it will get anywhere.

On topic: The camps are still a stupid idea.

What you fail to understand is that this is not a debate. It is a known fact that Homosexuality is not a choice!

The APA says that "most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation".

American medical organizations have further stated therapy cannot change sexual orientation, and have expressed concerns over potential harms.

The director of the APA's LGBT Concerns Office explained: "I don't think that anyone disagrees with the idea that people can change because we know that straight people become gays and lesbians.... the issue is whether therapy changes sexual orientation, which is what many of these people claim".

The American Psychiatric Association states, in a 2000 position statement, that they oppose "any psychiatric treatment, such as "reparative" or conversion therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change their sexual orientation.

Similarly, United States Surgeon General David Satcher issued a report stating that "there is no valid scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed".

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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You wanna get the gay to go away? PORN IS THE ANSWER. I mean those ****ty strip teases of females. None of that man on woman thing.

But to be more serious: ****ing morons his parents are. Sorry guys, but praying won't change your genetics.

Edit: Forgot to add, I'm not against people who are Gay. You can't help who you are. In fact a lot of my friends are Gay or Bi.