Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

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  • somethingillremember
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2007
    • 106

    #1

    Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

    In response to "let me make something clear", posted by a mod telling us that we need to start discussions with more, well, discussing, I decided to start a series of philosophical questions to get people debating. This is the first.

    So, you're in a tight situation. There is a man working for a Chemical plant, but he is working from home. You know that in 10 seconds, because of the way he is operating things, he will cause a nuclear meltdown that will destroy the whole plant and probably kill over 100 people. You also know that the man currently has a couple hundred pounds of gunpowder in his basement (he is LEGALLY (but dangerously) holding it for a local firework factory). You have a gun, and have a clear shot at the gunpowder through one of the basement windows. Shooting the gunpowder and killing the man in the explosion is the only way to save the over 100 people in the plant.

    Ignoring the fact that gunpowder probably wouldn't blow up if you shot it, and that it's totally ridiculous to have so much of the stuff in your basement (give me a break, it's harder than it seems thinking of these situations), would you do it? Would you kill one innocent man to save 100?


    PEOPLE, PLEASE GET THIS STRAIGHT. THIS SITUATION IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL, AND IN NO WAY WOULD EVER HAPPEN. THE POINT IS NOT TO FIND A WAY OUT OF THE SITUATION, BUT TO DISCUSS WEATER AN INNOCENT PERSON SHOULD BE KILLED IF IT WOULD SAVE THE LIVES OF MANY OTHERS.
    Anyway, haven't you guys seen the Dark Knight? Read my second edit for a slightly better story.



    *EDIT*
    Okay, I know this is ridiculous, but you get the idea. Also, something to think about: would you have the GUTS to kill the guy? Is it RIGHT to kill him? Would you feel more guilty if you didn't or if you did?

    Anyway, continue, I want to see where this goes.

    *SECOND EDIT*
    Gah! I can't get people to understand this! Okay, lets change up the story. There is a crazy guy. You have a gun. Crazy guy (who you cannot kill at the moment) will kill 100 people (he has a bomb) unless you kill some innocent person within the next ten seconds. Got it?
    Last edited by somethingillremember; 12-30-2008, 10:16 AM. Reason: It is ridiculous
  • Chaosvermin
    FFR Player
    • May 2007
    • 140

    #2
    Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

    I would kill him.
    To save 100 people by the death of 1 man I would, it would be better knowing you saved 100 people than knowing you could have saved the lives of 100 people but did nothing to do so.
    Note: I'm not good with writing or speaking my thoughts/ideas, what i have written makes perfect sense to me but to you im not so sure. I apologise in advance.

    It sounds like love is an amazing feeling. I guess its like dinosaurs, they sound amazing but I'm never gonna see one.
    Some guy from some other forum.

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    • NFD
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2007
      • 4715

      #3
      Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

      I'd kill him for the sake of saving the other 100 people's lives. If somebody is going to kill other people, they should be killed first.

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      • dore
        caveman pornstar
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2006
        • 6317

        #4
        Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

        The premise is pretty ridiculous, if I had such an indirect impact on the situation I would leave it alone. Especially because I probably wouldn't have tracer rounds to ignite the gunpowder.

        If I was faced with killing 1 or killing 100 in a more direct way then I'd kill the 1, though if it was a 1 or 100 decision chances are the 1 would be someone I knew and the 100 would be 100 people I didn't, complicating the decision. Looking at it as numbers I'd kill the 1 but chances are any situation where I'd be presented that choice the people involved would mean something more and I would just go on my gut instinct at the time.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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        • somethingillremember
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2007
          • 106

          #5
          Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

          Originally posted by NFD
          I'd kill him for the sake of saving the other 100 people's lives. If somebody is going to kill other people, they should be killed first.
          But he's not killing the other people on purpose. Sure, he may not be the best guys to work there, but he hasn't done anything wrong. Really if you think about it, it would be the person-who-hired-him's fault.

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          • NFD
            FFR Player
            • Nov 2007
            • 4715

            #6
            Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

            Well, if there was a possiblity if this happening, why was he put in charge of what he's in charge of, which ties in with what you said about who hired him, but still. We should be able to leave a person to their own devices and trust them not to, accident or not, kill 100 people.

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            • travman301
              #swagdog
              • Mar 2004
              • 2641

              #7
              Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

              Well, if you know what he is doing wrong then you can most likely stop what he is doing rather then killing him.

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              • Temote
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2007
                • 748

                #8
                Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                I don't think it would be necessary to kill him, all things considered.

                Assuming we have a clear shot at the gunpowder in his basement should mean that we have a clear shot of his home, meaning that instead of forcing him to die, say, shoot out a nearby window or something similar to get his attention and force him away from his work. If we were a good distance away, one could peg his leg, and if we were close, we could subdue him physically, since being hit with a gun is definitely not a nice thing. Situation handled and no one has to die.

                Or just shoot out a power line. That might work, too.

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                • somethingillremember
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 106

                  #9
                  Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                  Originally posted by travman301
                  Well, if you know what he is doing wrong then you can most likely stop what he is doing rather then killing him.
                  The point is that you can't. You've got ten seconds.

                  Really, the whole point is that there are one hundred people that will die unless you kill someone totally innocent.

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                  • ice_lazer3
                    ICE ICE BABY
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 173

                    #10
                    Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                    Shoot the guy with the bomb.

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                    • somethingillremember
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 106

                      #11
                      Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                      Originally posted by ice_lazer3
                      Shoot the guy with the bomb.
                      If you read it, I said you couldn't.

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                      • Tr44nc33
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 152

                        #12
                        Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                        I would say "Stop!"
                        If he doesn't stop in 3 secs, i kill him.

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                        • pokelda
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3876

                          #13
                          Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                          whats so interesting about this thread

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                          • ~kitty~
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 988

                            #14
                            Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

                            Good chance there's another way to try this situation.

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                            • OrganisM
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2644

                              #15
                              Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him?

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