Downgrading Vista to XP

[MalDON]

Re: Downgrading Vista to XP

There is clearly an issue with vista or its drivers when using flash or ffr. Not a hardware issue.

As for putting xp on your laptop, It is really just personal preference. I'd suggest it if you are really planning on playing tons of ffr. Make sure you have drivers for it. You will need wireless internet drivers and what not.

Bad driver support has nothing to do with flash. It's not Microsoft's fault that he game hardware manufacturers months of prep time to test drivers.

Blame Adobe for bad flash.

And I don't actively program in Assembly. I'm sticking to the web technologies. Besides, I'd rather not deal with software bug fixes. Working with IE is bad enough.

[Izzy]

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Bad driver support has nothing to do with flash. It's not Microsoft's fault that he game hardware manufacturers months of prep time to test drivers.

Blame Adobe for bad flash.

And I don't actively program in Assembly. I'm sticking to the web technologies. Besides, I'd rather not deal with software bug fixes. Working with IE is bad enough.

When was the last version of adobe flash made. It seems like flash was made during windows xp and then just transferred over to vista.

[fido123]

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Izzy, no offense but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Flash is really old technology originally made by Macromedia and then bought of Adobe when they couldn't prefect vector imaging so I'm told. OrganisM and MalDon know their stuff and I would put their opinions above mine. And thanks for telling me that about RAM Mal, had no idea Windows is retarded as not to detect graphical memory.

[Patricoo]

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You should have bought a MAC, and the installed XP or Vista onto that. Thats what I did.

[OrganisM]

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Flash 9 was released years after Vista. It requires separate drivers. Adobe makes them. Microsoft does not. Vista is not the problem. How many times do I have to rephrase the same thing?

[fido123]

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You should have bought a MAC, and the installed XP or Vista onto that. Thats what I did.

THIS POST MAKES ME SO ANGRY I MUST TYPE IN CAPS.

I'm sorry but computers made by Macs although look nice are pieces of **** from my experiences. Apple has become the Abacrombie and Finch of computers except they're made like crap. I saw a Macbook with 1G of RAM, 1.6GHz Duel Core, Integrated Memory, and a 19" screen for $800. That is OUTRAGEOUS. If you're not retarded and you want the Mac OS which I only recommend for media such as editing video's (and I think that's it as it sucks for music too from what I've seen), buy a normal laptop for CHEAP and buy OSx. It will save you a bundle. Also from what I HAVE HEARD Mac hardware has a higher failure rate than anything else.

Wow...you're know you're a nerd when you get physically angry after reading a post on the internet about computers =/...I really want to say so much more but it would probably get ugly.


PS: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE


PPS: Somebody else tell her why that's such a ****ing awful idea...I'm going to lose sleep over this.

[OrganisM]

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Ah, relax fido, I get irritated and take things personally all the time, and it bothers me that people believe in the Mac myth, but the best thing to do (at least as someone in the business) is to see the Mac for what it is, no more, no less.

Apple is a manufacturer that has taken things one step further than companies like Sony. They like to control absolutely everything to try and ensure quality. That includes a proprietary OS, even if the effect is really just a different GUI. That said, they are definitely overpriced, but such is the price consumers are willing to pay.

A Mac is a PC. Sorry to burst your bubbles, Macheads and PC nuts, the only particular difference is the GUI involved. Apple computers have been using Intel parts for a while now, along with Samsung parts and parts of other companies that are commonly used in PCs. Basically, it's the same exact thing as what's in a PC, only rebranded. Apple knows this, and that's why they're suing companies like Psystar that are trying to sell OSX with PC hardware. Nobody will buy a Mac when OSX is available on a PC, and nobody will buy OSX because of compatibility issues. Whoops.

And all you like about a Mac is available in a PC. The aluminum cases, cooling systems, monitors, all of it is available. The problem is that the PC does not have an identity. A crappy $15,000 Falcon Northwest custom rig is a PC, but so is a $350 crappy Dell. The common mistake lots of people make is comparing the crappy $350 Dell to a $2000 Macintosh. Whoops.

I personally prefer complete control over my system's hardware, and the compatibility and flexibility Vista offers. The Mac is a great alternative for the common consumer, though it's not any better than a PC.

Also note how any time there are failures of Mac systems reported on the Apple support forum, they quickly delete the threads and quiet down any users pestering them, before working on a fix. Huh, ain't that funny? There are many instances of this, and nobody seems to be talking about it.

...except for the entire computer hardware community. Not all the Macheads and Vista-haters.

Sorry kids, the myth is dispelled right here: You've all been fooled into believing "the Mac myth", and you're going to have to make decisions based on fact now.

[fido123]

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Deityness

I ****ing love you...now I can go to bed. I'm literally copy pasteing this and saving it because there are so many macfags at my school who boast about how awesome mac is and you put it in words i never could.

NOTE: I don't hate macs...just macfags...but I don't like mac anyway...in fact I use Ubuntu and XP so I can be an elitist fagot about it and stay out of the PC Mac war =D

[MalDON]

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Flash 9 was released years after Vista. It requires separate drivers. Adobe makes them. Microsoft does not. Vista is not the problem. How many times do I have to rephrase the same thing?

If I remember correctly, Flash 9 was released about the same time vista was. Both came out around 2007. Adobe had plenty of time to get their player right. And they did, for the most part. Flash 10 just came out a few months ago and it performs worse than Flash 9.

[OrganisM]

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If I remember correctly, Flash 9 was released about the same time vista was. Both came out around 2007. Adobe had plenty of time to get their player right. And they did, for the most part. Flash 10 just came out a few months ago and it performs worse than Flash 9.

Apologies, I was thinking of a later revision of Flash 9. Vista came out (retail) January 30th of 2007. Either way, Flash 10 came out in October of this year.

[sumzup]

Re: Downgrading Vista to XP

You know, I like Vista, but I don't think I can switch because of one reason: Wobbly Windows. They are awesome and I can't live without them. Come to think of it, basically every feature that Compiz enables is something that I need. I'm addicted.

P.S. Python rocks.

[WTFBrandon]

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wait a second... i thought vista was causing all of my problems with FFR... i mean i can play a song right now and get 100 goods and go to my friends, play the same song on xp and get under 5 without any problem. i just can't find the problem i guess.

The problem IS the flash player, i've looked into it and its not vista at all...
I have 2g's running on my vista and I downgraded to XP.
Was there a difference?
VERY SLIGHT difference, it's the new flash player they have going around, it's all retarded... and on my laptop it makes most of the songs on FFR load faster than the actual music so the arrows come early...
A tip if you have vista and notice you are getting random goods.
Try with the sound off, should help.
But I do like XP better, Vista takes up a lot of CPU which makes my games like CS:S lag and even SM sometimes... Which is the main reason I downgraded to XP since SM > FFR.
If you do downgrade... it depends what kind of computer you have and if the CD will work with it.
It might not, which will suck if you don't back up everything.
So downgrading... might not be such a good idea... but if you want the best out of FFR > SM for now instead of waiting for flash to stop messing up. It's the only solution atm...

Also, when you get XP, you can always get the Vista Inspirat 2.
Identical to Vista for looks, doesn't quiet work the same though, still the XP things but... it's got some pretty cool things. Like the RocketDock.
Look it up on youtube or something... im to lazy to take a screen

[OrganisM]

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Mmm, the GUI of Vista only on an older crappier kernel. Yum.

[MalDON]

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If SM lags in vista then your computer is not new enough to even run vista. The reason people complain too much is because they try to install vista on old hardware. NO. If you have anything less than a 2GHz dual core, then walk away. And I mean 2Ghz is pushing the min too.

I did a little test of my own months ago. XP vs. Vista with game performance. Vista won. By a lot in some cases. Crysis ran like a fat man under XP.

[dood gone krazee]

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I would get that CPU check thing, but I have to get a new router to be able to access the internet to downlaod it on my laptop.

I DID look at that built-in performance check. The base score I got was 3.1, and the other respective number scores were 4.7, 4.5, 3.1, 3.4, 5.3.