Another school shooting.... What is going on?!?!

[Relambrien]

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**** ninja'd now I need to quote

We had a perfectly fine, nearly balanced weapon set in the past. A few "top tier" weapons, such as a the bow and spear/polearm... but at least no one was at a true disadvantage in that time.

Swords > Axes
Axes > Lances
Lances > Swords

lol weapon triangle

Automatic > Sidearm
Sidearm > ???
High-explosion > Automatic?

Modern-day weapon triangle.

[Tex :)]

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Ok, time to go to bed, it's after 11. Debate on without me...

[Kekeb]

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because if we didn't have guns we wouldn't need them for protection.

Lmao, that's some good logic.

"Because if it works theoretically, it works in practice."

EDIT: Also, explain how destroying weapons would work? Which country goes first? Someone lets down their guard and then gets bitch slapped by an opposer.

[RoastedNoob]

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Guns are destroyed by a wish. They all vanish at once, never to be remade. Other than that, I just wish they were never invented. That's all I'm saying. Now that they're here, there's nothing we can do. =\

[purebloodtexan]

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I never said guns should be banned! Guns are important! I was just responding to RoastedNoob saying what weapon I would use is guns WERE banned.
Get the picture?

That wasn't directed towards you. It was directed toward the thread in general.

@RoastedNoob: Because guns and explosives were initially made for effective warfare, and they're clearly more effective than medieval weapons alone. Again, I think that they're not always used for the right reason, but I'd rather shoot my attackers than having a long-ass duel with them.

@Fido: There are robbers that do kill, and I'm not going to depend on a baseball bat to battle down someone that could have a semi-automatic for all I care.

Just to make this straight: I only support projectile weaponry for defensive purposes, seeing how many people don't use it for the same reason.

[Nyokou]

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Making guns illegal would be Prohibition V2, regarding the outcome.

[arrekusuof93]

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Then again, why not use a tazer or other non-leather alternative?

If you still feel like you have to protect yourself why not a tazer or other non-leather alternative to a firearm.

Because killing animals for weapons is just wrong.

[SSCUJO]

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Why is it that Canadians don't have problems with robbers breaking into their homes with automatic weapons... hmmm i wonder.

its a circular arguement: letting everyone have guns -> the innocent gets a gun for protection -> the idiot gets the gun for what ever they want. creating strict requirments in order to own a gun -> innocent get gun for protection -> idiots get no guns...

figthing fire with fire is pointless, the guns only get bigger.

not like there is any point argueing this subject with a person by the name of 'Purebloodtexan'

[Relambrien]

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Well, SSCUJO, the general rebuttal to that argument goes like this.

If you create stricter gun control laws, you decrease the number of people who can own a gun. However, criminals, who likely already get their weaponry from illegal sources anyway, are unaffected. Thus, the ones who would use guns for illegal purposes are unaffected by stricter gun control, therefore such a thing would result in a negative overall effect.

Of course, anyone presenting this argument has to show that criminals do normally get their weapons illegally, and that these illegal sources will not be affected by gun control.

(Not taking sides here, just helping further the debate)

[MarukuAntoni]

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the worlds crazy. when life gets tough for someone you just never know what might happen.

[SSCUJO]

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if a weapon is aquired illigally it is usally through some kind of gang, or criminal organization. and will not be used to rob some average joe.

illigal weapons exist in Canada... yet the problem doesn't exist becasue the guns stay within gang warfare, nobody is dumb enough to take an illigal gun to rob some nobody.

[Revolversaid]

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Madness. I hate to say it, after hearing the reports about shootings occurring at tech and university campuses, I am actually glad I go to community college.
If you look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...#North_America There is no record of any community college school shootings. Maybe it's the smaller class sizes...

As a civilian your not allowed to carry your firearm in most places of business or school; so saying that a firearm will protect you from criminals may be true, but you will also be a criminal for carrying the firearm. Catch-22. It's the perfect answer, if you live in the middle of nowhere, in a rural environment where if you had to wait for the police you would already be dead. I think that firearms for civilians should be banned in metropolitan areas as they are usually filled with enough heavily armed police to control the crime populace. If our government does decide to become tyrannical the firearms you buy won't protect you from an organized army bent on enslaving you anyway. You may be able to fight back like the various groups in Iraq do, but you could get the weapons illegally at that point anyway.

[thegeddupnoise]

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So very sad. Terrible that things like this have to happen.

On the discussion about gun laws, though, I don't know much about the whole issue, would making guns illegal really stop people from having them? A lot of drugs are illegal, but does that stop tons of people from using them? As I said, I don't know much about the issue, but I think that if somebody wanted to kill a bunch of people, they could very well do it without a gun.

[Revolversaid]

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Well... A gun is actually the easiest way of killing groups of people. Think about it. The second easiest would be a bomb, but that requires intelligence and risking death making the bomb. Besides from that I guess you could poison people. Laws are put in place to affect the majority of society, they do have a major effect even though people will always break the law.

[richyrich55]

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That's what the police/alarm is for. If you still feel like you have to protect yourself why not a tazer or other non-leathal (not leather) alternative to a firearm.

For protection the only gun I would use would be like a PPK or a small .22 handgun. Maybeh even a gun that has rubber bullets. Tasers, not counting the police ones, are close range, guns have longer ranges. You could always get the paintballs with pepperpowder in them...