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  • JustJono
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2003
    • 283

    #16
    B-boy?
    Jonathan Cruz

    http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

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    • bballplaya
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2003
      • 1007

      #17
      Originally posted by Nima
      No, cause your skill level moves up as you play songs several times. Ie. When I first got uberrave I sucked and couldn't even read it properly, now it is not because I have learned the patterns it is because I can read the arrows and stuff that you can AAA it and stuff. Like, that's why I have no problem on shuffle, etc. Plus, passing songs like payon isn't what makes it hard. I haven't memorized Payon yet I can AA it because I can read the notes not cause I memorized the patterns necessarily. Plus, it's not cause you played all the songs a million times that your skill level becomes so high, yes you are correct that might be the difference between a AAA and a AA, but why do you think most people who can AAA super hard songs can get AA's on almost EVERY hard song within 1/2 tries? It is cause by playing certain songs several times their skill level improves.

      Skill level should be judged by how well you can read arrows and how accurately you can hit these arrows to the way they are placed on the screen. If it takes you many tries to get to this level, then so be it. But if someone can AAA uberrave/AAA arrabbiata/AAA gravity, etc. I'm sure they could pwnd a hard song like vanish v2 or cynic or something first time.
      yeah what he said
      Originally posted by tnyhwk900
      We need Arch0wl in his worst mood in here to say how much we hate AlternateOblivion .
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      • Arch0wl
        Banned
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2002
        • 6344

        #18
        Originally posted by Reach
        What makes someone a good player?

        Someone who can score well, overall, on various songs. Everyone is weak at certain types of songs, and better at others....so if you were going to compare or compete with someone you would have to do it over a wide variety of different songs.
        ^^^^

        This man knows what he's talking about.

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        • Feuergeist
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 869

          #19
          But sometimes players aren't always good. For example, sometimes I can FC Max300, and other times, I fail within the first 30 seconds? Is my skill level different because i fail sometimes?



          Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
          Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

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          • Brainmaster07
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2003
            • 2891

            #20
            That's called a fluke.

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            • Feuergeist
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 869

              #21
              Originally posted by Brainmaster07
              That's called a fluke.
              Not nessecarrily, I've done it more times them ive failed it.



              Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
              Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

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              • Arch0wl
                Banned
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2002
                • 6344

                #22
                Then you're just weird.

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                • Privateer
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2962

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Arch0wl
                  Then you're just weird.
                  ^ ^ ^ ^

                  This man knows what he's talking about.

                  jk That is weird.

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                  • banditcom
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 6243

                    #24
                    I agree with Reach. I mean, some people can do awesome on songs like A or Payon, but yet can't pass Uber Rave.

                    I personally, can do decent/good on most songs. I can AA Uber, A A, AA Lab, A Snow, B Yanah's Club. The only thing I can't really do well is jackhammers or big long patterns.

                    Some of the songs like Payon, I've only tried a few times here and there. I personally don't play a song over and over again. I play it once, and then switch songs. I've only AAA'ed a few songs here and there as well. I don't bother trying to AAA more than that. It's a waste of my time. If I can AA a song and FC, that's good enough for me. I do a lot of variety... which is probably why you won't ever see me make a post like "AAA Lab" or something... I'm not going to bother trying.

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                    • vvolkov0073
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 357

                      #25
                      OK I agree with everyone, bye

                      - Volkov

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                      • Feuergeist
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 869

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Arch0wl
                        Then you're just weird.
                        I'd agree with that. I'd also atribute it to the fact I have the coldest room in the house, so I cant move my fingers as fast at times



                        Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
                        Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

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                        • Cenright
                          You thought I was a GUY?!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3139

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Feuergeist
                          Originally posted by Brainmaster07
                          That's called a fluke.
                          Not nessecarrily, I've done it more times them ive failed it.
                          It is not a fluke. Sometimes you are overly active or frustrated and so you rush on the arrows and make tons of erroneous errors. Sometimes you are very passive and can't seem to keep up with the arrows. Then there are the times when you are right in the middle and you are active enough to be fast, yet patient enough to be accurate, or something you are thinking about puts you "in the zone". It is all about fatigue, mood, and psychological focus.


                          If it is 4 in the morning, you aren't going to keep up as well..
                          If you are mad that nothing goes right, you are going to pressing harder on the keyboard and mess up your timing.
                          If you were just shot at and you are getting death threats, you aren't going to be as focused on the game.


                          These are extremes, but even subtle changes affect our bodies.
                          http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

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                          • vvolkov0073
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 357

                            #28
                            I'm not bad at anything i the game...

                            - Volkov

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                            • Nima
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 3526

                              #29
                              i don't agree with arch on that. I know you have problems with turns but most people don't have problems like that unless it is very slight. Me, Reach, etc. are fine with jackhammers, turns, doubles, etc. especially if you play with two hands.
                              DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

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                              • Arch0wl
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 6344

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nima
                                i don't agree with arch on that.
                                Okay, so since Moogy can beat me at Uber Rave he's better than me?

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