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  • Twilight_Overlord
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2005
    • 317

    #1

    Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

    Two vertical poles have heights 6 ft. and 12 ft. A rope is attached from the top of each pole to the bottom of the other. How far above the ground do the ropes cross?
    You should value your education more than this crap of Flash Flash bull.
  • dAnceguy117
    new hand moves = dab
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 10097

    #2
    RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

    ~3.14159265 km^2

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    • Kilgamayan
      Super Scooter Happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2003
      • 6583

      #3
      RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

      Your problem is impossible to solve without knowing how far apart the poles are.
      I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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      • Squeek
        let it snow~
        • Jan 2004
        • 14444

        #4
        RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

        Somehow I think we need to know how spaced out the poles are.

        In any event, doing this in the lamest way possible, the result from drawing it in Paint says 4.2 feet. Then again, I have no idea how many feet were between the poles I used.

        ~Squeek

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        • jamuko
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2004
          • 1083

          #5
          RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

          Nope, distance between poles doesn't matter.

          I can solve it algebraically, or by cheating with graph paper XD but I've forgotten how to do this the geometric way.

          The answer is 4 ft.
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          • Kilgamayan
            Super Scooter Happy
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            • Feb 2003
            • 6583

            #6
            RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

            Oh, you're right. I was doing it graphically and kept getting different x values, but y would be the same every time because the functions change at the positions of the poles do.

            Duh. ._.
            I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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            • jamuko
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2004
              • 1083

              #7
              RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

              Hehehe.

              Okay, I think I've gotten it the way your teacher probably wants you to know it.

              Because distance doesn't matter, let's just say it's 1 to be easy.

              So it looks like this:


              We are looking for h.

              Notice how h forms triangles that are similar to the triangles made by the poles: triangle ACF is similar to ADE, and ECF is similar to EBA.

              Knowing this, we can use tangent ratios to solve. tangent(angle) = opp.side / adj.side

              tan(x) = h / AF
              tan(x) = 6 / 1

              Solve between those, and you get h = 6*AF.

              Now... other triangle!

              tan(z) = h / FE (Fire Emblem lololol)
              tan(z) = 12 / 1

              Solve between those to get h = 12*FE.

              Now look at our two equasions for h.

              h = 6*AF
              h = 12*FE

              We know AF + FE = 1.
              So AF = 1 - FE

              Substitute...

              6*(1 - FE) = 12*FE

              Solve and we get FE = 1/3.

              Substitute into h equasion...

              h = 12*(1/3)

              So finally,
              h = 4.

              Phew.
              Mm, geometry.
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              • Squeek
                let it snow~
                • Jan 2004
                • 14444

                #8
                RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                Oh.

                See, as soon as you use trig functions, I go "what"

                I never took Trig. It makes Calculus very fun.

                =(

                ~Squeek

                PS - I was close =x

                PPS - For future reference, don't ask us. We're not homework help. Call a friend. Just so happens us three were bored and you gave us something to fill very few minutes of our time.

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                • jamuko
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1083

                  #9
                  RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                  Ouch =x

                  Trig/precalc was the time everything all started to click for me. It's confusing as heck at first, but once you get a grasp on what it's all about, it's like you've become enlightened on mathematics and everything finally makes sense all together. XD At least that's how it was for me.

                  Although I always did like geometry for some reason. Playing with spacial math is yummy fun.

                  The way you use trig ratios in geometry is pretty easy. It doesn't go into all the confusing stuff with sin waves and all that. All you need to know for geometry is the ratio for each ("SOH CAH TOA"). It's more handy than hard. =D

                  Gah. I dunno why I'm so blabbery about math right now... I must be craving it since I haven't had a single math course all year >_>
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                  • Moogy
                    嗚呼
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 10303

                    #10
                    RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                    kefit how do u program java
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                    • lightdarkness
                      Summer!!
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 11308

                      #11
                      RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

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                      • Kefit
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 1517

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                        Originally posted by Moogy
                        kefit how do u program java
                        with trig

                        at least i think i needed trig when i made my 3d rotating nodal structure. i'll have to check


                        Originally posted by seinno
                        and also thank you everone for clearing it up for me I will try to start using my two hands iv tried quit a bit i put my left hand index and middle finger middle finger is on the up arrow index on on left arrow and right hand i use my index for the down button and middle for the right button does that seem weird?

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                        • Squeek
                          let it snow~
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 14444

                          #13
                          RE: Re: RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                          omg shut up plz

                          I'm back in CS this year. I swear I won't ask you for help since it's just more material you can use in a0 chats or with Moogster.

                          ~Squeek

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                          • jamuko
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1083

                            #14
                            RE: Re: RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                            The Squeek abuse wounds me, guys.
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                            • Moogy
                              嗚呼
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 10303

                              #15
                              Re: RE: Re: RE: Urgent! Need help or will fail Geometry!

                              Originally posted by MrESqueek
                              omg shut up plz

                              I'm back in CS this year. I swear I won't ask you for help since it's just more material you can use in a0 chats or with Moogster.

                              ~Squeek
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