Inward Hellix Riddle

[Reincarnate]

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http://www.twitch.tv/mrrubixviaffr if anyone wants to watch

I can't tell if the sound settings are right though -- can anyone hear both music + voice without one overpowering the other?

[VisD]

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Mic's fine, could do with a bit of tuning up

Astraia, if you wanna PM me what you have in detail, I could help. It sounds like you have the right -general idea-, just missing a couple of minor steps along the way.

[Reincarnate]

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Finally got 25. The second part took maybe less than 5 minutes to figure out, despite the fact that it's "harder" -- but the first half totally had me stumped. Turns out I had the right method at one point but made a mistake and wrote it off! Damn it >.<

[VisD]

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have fun breezing through all the way til the 30s now. Then the real fun begins

[Reincarnate]

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Now 27 is kicking my ass. Searched in many places, nothing but WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, etc.

[VisD]

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27 is ez mode, don't overthink this

if you're on the bit with numbers, ignore the circles

[Reincarnate]

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I'm not even that far yet, lol.

I am a little worried if all the riddles are going to be like this going forward. At least with Zest there was some logic behind each one (minus a few here and there), but as of the early 20's or so it's starting to feel more like a guessing game in certain parts -- the unfairness in question starting with the last stage of 21. I also consider 23 unfair, as well as 24. In other words, it's Notpron Greek territory within the opening set of levels.

Other riddles are fair, but are poorly hinted or underhinted. I've found that on many occasions a riddle was EASIER by ignoring the hints because they were too vague to be useful and therefore distracting / more likely to lead one astray. For example, problem 25a would have been much easier without that "from one up to two is wrong / wrong angle" thing (which I still don't understand even after having solved it). The dual-arrow thing is also misleading and should have been done another way. I might even go as far as to say "don't even look at the source for 25a."

For example, 27 says something is missing. It's pretty easy to tell what is missing -- but when you fill it in? Wrong. Try a variant? Wrong. Repeat, wrong. etc.

[benguino]

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Stuck on 7 right now. I'm not getting anywhere with these hints.

EDIT: finally made a dent in my progress on 7! /o/

[VisD]

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I'm not even that far yet, lol.

I am a little worried if all the riddles are going to be like this going forward. At least with Zest there was some logic behind each one (minus a few here and there), but as of the early 20's or so it's starting to feel more like a guessing game in certain parts -- the unfairness in question starting with the last stage of 21. I also consider 23 unfair, as well as 24. In other words, it's Notpron Greek territory within the opening set of levels.

Other riddles are fair, but are poorly hinted or underhinted. I've found that on many occasions a riddle was EASIER by ignoring the hints because they were too vague to be useful and therefore distracting / more likely to lead one astray. For example, problem 25a would have been much easier without that "from one up to two is wrong / wrong angle" thing (which I still don't understand even after having solved it). The dual-arrow thing is also misleading and should have been done another way. I might even go as far as to say "don't even look at the source for 25a."

For example, 27 says something is missing. It's pretty easy to tell what is missing -- but when you fill it in? Wrong. Try a variant? Wrong. Repeat, wrong. etc.

Yeah, the 20s are by far the weakest part of inwardhellix. I have no idea why beezqp frontloaded the game with all those pointless google-fu read-my-mind levels, but there you are. 21, 23, 24, 26 are a stark contrast to the zest 20s (i.e. puzzles that require google but are not attempting random keywords, everything logically clued, challenging, you don't just pluck the answer from a webpage).

Unfortunately there's one more level like this up ahead - 31 is probably the worst offender of this. I ranted at beezqp about it, but all he did was add a rather useless hs After 31, though, the levels get much better very quickly...from 30 to 60 is pretty much business as usual, cool puzzles, no (very few) more silly psychic games, actual logic (you're gonna love 34).

I will say though that I thought 25a was fine, although all the bs in the source is liable to get to you if you don't get it quick, because you start to overcomplicate things. 25a was interesting in the sense that you weren't so much clued directly in words/pic but rather the implicit themes behind the picture and words. I liked it, but the from one up to two shit could def have been moved to 25b (for the record he means 1+1=/=2, as a hint for 25b).

And 27 is actually not as unfair or illogical as you think it is, but you have to get the hook first. You'll kick yourself - don't overthink this, think more along the lines of zest 67

[Reincarnate]

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I thought the hint in 25b was clever -- IMO that is sufficient to figure out what to do (I refer to the -1 + 1 = 0 clue).

And 27 is actually not as unfair or illogical as you think it is, but you have to get the hook first. You'll kick yourself - don't overthink this, think more along the lines of zest 67

That was actually the first thing I tried (being hyper-literal) -- 404's all the way, though.

EDIT: Finally made it to the "circles" thing -- I really disagree with that whole first step though. IMO, a better answer would be "rightinthepicture.htm" or even "something.gif"

EDIT: Found a much bigger picture.

EDIT: Onto 28. The end of this one is great! Onto 29... 30

[Reincarnate]

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Unfortunately there's one more level like this up ahead - 31 is probably the worst offender of this. I ranted at beezqp about it, but all he did was add a rather useless hs

I just solved 31 and definitely agree with you. I found the hint screen, which actually did lead me to try the first thing that came to mind, and it worked. But it's pretty much a "Google a related word" riddle for those who don't already know about the subject.

I have no idea what the gibberish is meant to accomplish in this riddle. I didn't use it at all (although there's a hint screen that comes from it). Should be removed from the problem altogether IMO.

At any rate, onto Chapter 3!

[TC_Halogen]

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Just saw this thread, but I'm not going to be doing this tonight. Maybe when I get out of work tomorrow!

[benguino]

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Find ALL the hint pages! (I seem to stumble across a lot of the "unnecessary" hint pages).

Anyways, currently on 16.

[VisD]

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have fun on 34

[Reincarnate]

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Made it to 34 part 3 -- pretty logical level (more of a brain teaser than a riddle, at least so far). Saving the rest for tomorrow.