Immortality and You

[Kekeb]

Re: Immortality and You

Doesn't the definition of life imply that living beings must eventually die?

What? How does the ability to exist eternally change the definition of being alive or inanimate?

[pokelda]

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You are all going to die some day hope that helps.

[Kekeb]

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You are all going to die some day hope that helps.

dam

[LusciousXD]

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For when your heart just doesn't look good enough, bedazzle it with gold

[Snowcrafta]

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It's possible to transfer a brain, it's been done before in a chimpanzee. The question is brain deterioriAtion and the concept of a single conscience

[adlp]

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but what about the statistic about people who breathe have a 100% mortality rate

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

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What? How does the ability to exist eternally change the definition of being alive or inanimate?

Because being alive, or coming into existence, implies that people didn't exist in the past. This also implies that living beings have the capability to die.

For example, if you think about opening a door, this implies that the door used to be closed and that it has the ability to close again.

[gold stinger]

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The first imgur post for the image is correct. After you solve problems with keeping everything running at the same pace, your next biggest problem will be terminal age / cancer cells, as well as any viruses / diseases that there aren't cures for. I think we will see a place in time where we will be laser-engraved onto CD's - our entire conscious, essence of soul, and mind - before we are able to keep a physical body from deteriorating indefinitely.

[choof]

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dunno about you guys but I'm seriously thinking about cryogenics when I get close to death

[rushyrulz]

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I believe being immortal would be an eternal living nightmare. Can someone who lives forever really be considered a living being? Doesn't the definition of life imply that living beings must eventually die? I can't even imagine how lonely it would be for someone to live past countless friends and family...

Moreover, could an immortal person maintain his or her sanity when that individual becomes tired of life and tries to commit suicide numerous times, only to fail and remain alive? An eternal being would never need to engage in any of the conditions required for someone to keep living. How would someone feel if it was never necessary to eat, drink, or even breathe?

In addition, an immortal person would still theoretically feel pain, so what would happen if someone kept torturing him or her for decades without him or her dying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qfC3utQwI

worth a watch. You'll cry.

[danny53x]

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I don't tend to think about this subject as much as I used to. Life is easier without thinking about death. If I could preserve my body in a 20-30 year old state for eternity, I really don't think I'd have much to complain about.

[Cavernio]

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Because being alive, or coming into existence, implies that people didn't exist in the past. This also implies that living beings have the capability to die.

For example, if you think about opening a door, this implies that the door used to be closed and that it has the ability to close again.

The idea that things need to not exist in order to exist seems fallacious. Just because our own consciousness perceives things in that fashion, that doesn't mean that that's the reality of the world.

[Xiz]

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I'm actually cool with dying, when the time comes.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

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The idea that things need to not exist in order to exist seems fallacious. Just because our own consciousness perceives things in that fashion, that doesn't mean that that's the reality of the world.

I agree with you to an extent. However, even if it's possible to make human beings immortal, it doesn't change the implication that coming into existence means that one day that entity will come out of existence, or cease to exist (at least in the same place and form).

[Spenner]

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I'm actually cool with dying, when the time comes.

May I ask what from the idea of dying brings you comfort/an ability to embrace it? I'm working on having concrete rational advice for myself that will end all existential crisis... I'm getting warmer. A lot of people will put religion in this place, but I aim to put comfort in the things as they rationally are. The fact that we have been birthed as elaborate offspring of the cosmos and as easily as we have been made, we could be unmade. We didn't care about not being alive when we weren't alive. We won't again when the time to die comes.

However I cannot push the image of the ultimate confrontation with anxiety/letting go of everything you've ever experienced from my mind. A part of me is just convinced that it's what it will be really like, unless we truly deeply believe and anticipate something different. The final moments of a religious person's life would be incredibly spiritual, because no matter what feelings are present, they're going to attribute it to knowing they are going to be safely lifted to the next phase of existence. Although its impossible to REALLY say that's what it would be like, it's just what I imagine it is cuz it sounds reasonable lol.

I guess what I'm looking for is a spiritual experience with what is rationally there. I feel myself encroaching this, but never actually have I felt it persistently enough to overcome existential anxiety.