Sarcasm

[Choofers]

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I don't know too many people my age

that's because you're on a website with a bunch of high school and college students


heyyyoooooo

[yo man im awesome]

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heyyyoooooo

[Zageron]

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I dearly hope that most people know when I am being sarcastic, and when I am not.

[SkySeal]

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i hope people dont find out when im sarcastic
i think its working

[cetaka]

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As for your examples, I don't detect sarcasm in those. Any of them. I guess there is a personal way of conveying sarcasm that varies from person to person. It's just a matter of knowing that person well enough to detect their sarcasm when it isn't blatantly obvious.

probably becasue the OP as stated doesnt understand irony so that's what he or she sees in their own head when confronted by it

[j-rodd123]

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nice thread

nice posts

[Syhto]

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thanks omg

[bmah]

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probably becasue the OP as stated doesnt understand irony so that's what he or she sees in their own head when confronted by it

I know what irony is and am not socially inept. The statement I'm making is that I don't believe sarcasm is always used for showing your wittiness. I actually think that it's frequently used to hide your dumbness. There would be no way for me to actually prove that in any given case though, but I can see how it can be used conveniently as such. Since I'm not usually sarcastic, I haven't gave much thought to the idea beforehand.

[andy-o24]

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The statement I'm making is that I don't believe sarcasm is always used for showing your wittiness. I actually think that it's frequently used to hide your dumbness. There would be no way for me to actually prove that in any given case though, but I can see how it can be used conveniently as such.

And therein lies the problem. If someone were to say something stupid thinking they know what they are talking about, or thinking they are saying something intelligent and are called out on it, falling back on sarcasm is an easy way for them to evade the income fire. On the other hand, however, if someone were to say something dripping with sarcasm that wasn't picked up by another individual and that other individual calls the sarcasm user stupid, then where does the user go to? Considering how on line forums work, debates are usually flame wars so the individual will continue calling the user stupid, even though the user swears up and down what they said was sarcastic.

In the latter situation, sarcasm is clearly being used in a relevant manner whereas in the former, sarcasm is used as a defense mechanism. But which situation is utilizing sarcasm more effectively? The defense mechanism, or the misunderstood sarcasm? The defense mechanism is just that, a way to not sound like an idiot when called out on saying something stupid. Does that mean it's truly sarcasm? Probably not. They are probably just an idiot. However is it much better to use sarcasm that isn't picked up on? Arguably not, since the desired understanding was missed.

So, in my opinion, it all comes down to understanding sarcasm and identifying it, which is no easy task. I would say if you call someone out on being stupid and they say they were being sarcastic, it's probably a defense mechanism. The person who can effectively utilize sarcasm will argue that they were using sarcasm effectively and the accuser just didn't pick up on it. Thoughts?

-o24

[bmah]

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I would say if you call someone out on being stupid and they say they were being sarcastic, it's probably a defense mechanism. The person who can effectively utilize sarcasm will argue that they were using sarcasm effectively and the accuser just didn't pick up on it. Thoughts?

The way you describe it sounds like sarcasm could be a visible form of insecurity amongst the user. That doesn't necessarily mean you're insecure if you use sarcasm, but a lot of "missed sarcasm" I find seem to match the situation you're describing.

[TheSaxRunner05]

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I was going to make a sarcastic remark, but you smarty-pants people would pick up on it, so nevermind. I do LOVE sarcasm.

[smartdude1212]

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Like, I could message smartdude right now with 'eat shit and die' and I know he won't take any offense to it. Is that me being sarcastic?

I would dig out my fine china and serve it to you steaming on a rice pilaf instead.

I was actually having a conversation with someone via text today who gave someone $5 to give to me (because they owed me). I made some sort of joke about the handoff being as sketchy as if that person were buying drugs from me, and then he ended up asking me if I had any acid.

With a broken detector of seriousness, I responded with "I only deal in the purest of meth... Breaking Bad style." Either I'm really bad at this text-sarcasm game or the conversation got really serious by that point.

I should note that I only partake in caffeine and the occasional alcohol, so me selling acid or meth would be... well, hilarious.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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Bmah do you think I'm dumb

[Reincarnate]

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This entire discussion reminds me of

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/400077/october-18-2011/indecision-2012---herman-cain-s-electrified-fence

“He’s joking... unless you’re into the idea, in which case he means it! It’s like when you say to your girlfriend, ‘Hey, your old college friend Donna was crazy and so much fun. We should have a three way.’ What! I was joking, why would we do that? Stop crying!”


edit: also lmfao@2:00+min mark, forgot about that

[dAnceguy117]

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http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...ctrified-fence

“He’s joking... unless you’re into the idea, in which case he means it! It’s like when you say to your girlfriend, ‘Hey, your old college friend Donna was crazy and so much fun. We should have a three way.’ What! I was joking, why would we do that? Stop crying!”

Relevant and hilarious.



I think sarcasm has plenty of comedic merit. There are many times when making a straightforward statement isn't the least bit funny. Not attempting to crack jokes constantly is perfectly fine. Still, sarcasm can create humor out of otherwise plain scenarios, as long as the audience detects the sarcasm.

Consider the following example. Persons A and B live in close quarters and are familiar with each other's schedules.
Person A: "Hey, are you heading out for work?"
(Person B walks toward the front door, fully dressed)
Person B: "Nah, work is too boring. I'm going back to bed."

That's a bit more lively than responding with a "yes." In this case, Person A asked a question to which he or she should have already known the answer, perhaps simply out of habit. In other cases, sarcasm could actually answer questions effectively. Familiarity between people helps in detecting sarcasm. In my opinion, the most clever instances are detectable by almost anyone who carefully considers all available clues.

The idea of sarcasm can certainly be misused. The same people who use "sarcasm" to retract unfavorable comments would probably be equally deceitful in other ways. As you get to know someone, you should be able to decide how reliable the person's words are.