Ban debate

[psychoangel691]

Re: Ban debate

Okay guys listen,

The rule basically is that if someone is banned (perma or otherwise) they are banned from the forums and chats. (Basically the mediums of communicating with the community) but they are NOT banned from other aspects of the site such as the game, submitting files, judging, etc. This was actually something that threw me off at some point as well because I had also thought perma meant everything other than maybe the game. So this is a valid topic to discuss, but lets keep it civil. There's no reason to be trolling or yelling at one another. I'm actually curious to see what the overall opinion is on this from the community.

If it does keep up how it is however, I will lock down the thread.

[Ksl33zy24]

Re: Ban debate

i have too many chips for my dip

but if i open a new dip

i'd have too much dip for my chips

^ ...

[krunkykai22]

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Really Alex? Lol that's truly amazing, that out of all of this you had to be the ****ing moron to bring the troll out of a legit debate. Good on ya dude, good for you.

And to what Kayla said:

That's exactly what I thought, and it's what it should be.

[psychoangel691]

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Enough with the trolling.

[Reincarnate]

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this thread

[TC_Halogen]

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No one here is going to come to an agreement without tearing each other's head off. It's ridiculous how overly dramatic this is.

The answer is one of two options:
- continually prevent Anaru from posting intermittently by banning alternate accounts/proxy IPs (or prevent for a longer time by banning a range of IPs and hope that another user isn't affected).
- allow a particular account of Anaru's to be allowed to post and then permanently ban/wipe/do whatever you want if he doesn't behave (which truly doesn't work and just leads back to what staff is already doing).

There's really no other foreseeable solution, to be quite honest. But one thing is for certain - you guys are REALLY making this considerably more dramatic than it has to be, lol.

[krunkykai22]

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Nah, I think an agreement was made already, then people got bored and decided to troll. It's simple really.

Immaturity at it's best.

[Syhto]

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wwwhhhhaaaaaaaattttt

[Wayward Vagabond]

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I don't get the point <_____>

[qqwref]

Re: Ban debate

The rule basically is that if someone is banned (perma or otherwise) they are banned from the forums and chats. (Basically the mediums of communicating with the community) but they are NOT banned from other aspects of the site such as the game, submitting files, judging, etc..

Makes sense, although honestly every time Anaru makes a new account it should be permanently banned, because it's just ban evading. Also, this situation is a bit different... because Anaru wasn't just banned from the site, but from the game too, since he BS'd multiple times on both the main game and the dragonsfury engine. At this point I just see someone who feels he's been wronged by the community, and is torn between taking revenge by being an ass to everyone, and trying to keep his "status" as an intelligent member and stepartist. What I don't see is any desire to improve the site or the community.

I'm not against second chances, but you don't get a second chance by just sticking around and breaking the same rules again and again until someone takes your side. You get a second chance by deserving to come back to the community again - by proving you can make a positive impact - and Anaru is about as far from this as anyone can get. Treating him like a normal member is an insult to everyone in the past who actually followed the rules and left the site when they were told to. Think about it this way: if you knew you could get away with as much as Anaru has, what would stop you from doing it in the first place? Why bother even having the concept of blacklists or permanent bans if you can get around them by just insulting people on the forums for a while?

[krunkykai22]

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Makes sense, although honestly every time Anaru makes a new account it should be permanently banned, because it's just ban evading. Also, this situation is a bit different... because Anaru wasn't just banned from the site, but from the game too, since he BS'd multiple times on both the main game and the dragonsfury engine. At this point I just see someone who feels he's been wronged by the community, and is torn between taking revenge by being an ass to everyone, and trying to keep his "status" as an intelligent member and stepartist. What I don't see is any desire to improve the site or the community.

I'm not against second chances, but you don't get a second chance by just sticking around and breaking the same rules again and again until someone takes your side. You get a second chance by deserving to come back to the community again - by proving you can make a positive impact - and Anaru is about as far from this as anyone can get. Treating him like a normal member is an insult to everyone in the past who actually followed the rules and left the site when they were told to. Think about it this way: if you knew you could get away with as much as Anaru has, what would stop you from doing it in the first place? Why bother even having the concept of blacklists or permanent bans if you can get around them by just insulting people on the forums for a while?

Beautiful.

[blindreper1179]

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If I remember correctly, someone wouldn't allowed BLAZE to submit songs for the batch because he was always ban evading. That may have been older judges, but that should still be a rule.

Also, he can be like the old group of people and make his own ODI, nothings stopping that.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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Believe it or not Middie said the golden thing:

He's just kind of the person making this come to light in the event of any future people.


That's exactly what it is. Not necessarily PINNING Anaru for this whole debate, but his case is the prime example of what SHOULD NOT happen and the case where he shouldn't have ANY privileges for the constant evasion. I'm sorry, but it's true in the sheer fact that this should have been a rule a LONG time ago...

Let's also be very clear

I'm not a shining example of a community member myself. So I'm admittedly being somewhat hypocritical.

[Reincarnate]

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Personally, I think the current draconian ban rules are pretty silly. They don't actually solve the underlying problems and give plenty of incentives to be increasingly annoying.

[Fluvs]

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Lol this thread woah