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  • Evnoir
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    • Sep 2008
    • 978

    #31
    Re: Kaguya Table Thread

    Originally posted by gold stinger
    hi



    I bet 2 cents my hardcoreness is higher than yours

    Can I have 2 cents



    (This ultimately screwed me over for like 5 days)
    Last edited by Evnoir; 04-23-2013, 04:07 AM.

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    • gold stinger
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      • Jan 2007
      • 6428

      #32
      Re: Kaguya Table Thread

      Originally posted by Evnoir
      Can I have 2 cents



      (This ultimately screwed me over for like 5 days)






      Originally posted by YoshL
      butts.



      - Tosh 2014






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      • .Layne.
        ~~
        • Dec 2012
        • 711

        #33
        Re: Kaguya Table Thread

        Originally posted by .Layne.
        GIT ON MY HARDc0r3

        dawgs

        my hardcoreness >>> all of yours a page ago lol

        here's my status now woop woop

        GET ON MY MASTERY



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        • Nick Skyline
          Retired from VSRGs
          • Sep 2012
          • 530

          #34
          Re: Kaguya Table Thread

          hey layne



          How did you get your stats so high, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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          • pmonibuv1
            FFR Veteran
            • Aug 2007
            • 3236

            #35
            Re: Kaguya Table Thread

            Need more neetery. Tactics and rage are fine but neetery is where you need to put 80% of your stat points.

            FMO AAA's (55): Rottel-Da-Station, Church Bells, Arrogant Cobbler, Grocery Escape Plan, Disconnected Hardkore, Minute Waltz v2, Battle Theme #37, Flight of the Bumblebee, Midnight Dragon, Jeanie and Caroline, Blue-Violet, Puzzle, Kyrie, 300, Largiloquent Dithyramb, Brandish Headless, Going On Spring Wind, Novo Mundo, Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio, Starwolf, Melonman's OP, Summer Time Perfume, Perfect Cherry Storm, Hajnal, Epidermis, Strangeprogram, Thrash, Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit), Choprite, AIM Anthem, Dance and Zeal, Kanon Medley ~Metal Wings~, Clockwork, JULIA, Heavenly Spores, Distorted God, Radio Heads, Epilogue, Spoils, Ripoff, Since 1983, A FLOWER GARDEN, The earth blew up, Phalanx, Chronograph, Black Key Etude, Trinity, super mario bros theme (original NES is awesome), Jack-The-Ripper, Poppin' Shower, cheerful forest, Trisection v2, Devilz Staircase, Colibri, Club

            FGO AAA's (2): Time To Eye, The Bird's Concrete Nosedive




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            • Evnoir
              _(:3」∠)_
              • Sep 2008
              • 978

              #36
              Re: Kaguya Table Thread

              Originally posted by .Layne.
              dawgs

              my hardcoreness >>> all of yours a page ago lol

              here's my status now woop woop

              GET ON MY MASTERY

              But can you rebirth ???

              oo000ooo00ooo

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              • .Layne.
                ~~
                • Dec 2012
                • 711

                #37
                Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                Originally posted by Evnoir
                But can you rebirth ???

                oo000ooo00ooo




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                • AngelSassin
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 4

                  #38
                  Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                  I'm going to post some math. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

                  Enlightenment costs 20 hardcoreness = 200000 stat points = 66667 levels.

                  Assume CURR_EXP is the amount of exp required for you to level up. The amount of exp required on the next level is CURR_EXP + 250. Then, the amount of exp required to gain 66667 levels is 66667*CURR_EXP + 33333.5*(250 + (66667*250)). This amounts to 555569444500 + 66667*CURR_EXP.

                  My CURR_EXP value is 75 million. So, the amount of exp I need in order to gain at least 200000 stat points by using enlightenment is
                  555569444500 + 66667*75000000 = 5555594444500.

                  Now, as soon as you use enlightenment, CURR_EXP will increase by 66667*250, or 16666750, and the next time you use enlightenment, you will need 66667*16666750, or 1111122222250 more exp. To make this worth doing repeatedly, you will need to make sure that your exp-per-hit increases by 16666750 every time you use enlightenment, assuming you use it as soon as you would get a net gain.

                  Is it possible to increase exp-per-hit by 16666750 using 200000 stat points? Yes, but then you can't use these stat points on Hardcoreness.

                  Assume CURR_DAMAGE is the amount of damage you cause per hit. Then, the amount of stat points you need to put into Neetery in order to get an increase of 16666750 exp-per-hit is equal to 16666750/CURR_DAMAGE. For me, that is equal to 170 stat points, and that's with 105k tactics and 105k rage!!!.

                  So, that's not bad at all. It will totally be worth doing!

                  Here is what I mean when saying it will be worth it:
                  • After using enlightenment, I will immediately have enough hardcoreness to buy it again
                  • The amount of time it will take to obtain the necessary exp to efficiently use enlightenment decreases after each use.


                  According to these calculations, this is a cycle of gaining stat points and increasing exp gain.

                  Now, I need to ask you guys.
                  1) Are my calculations and conclusions correct?
                  2) Is this worth doing?

                  Thanks, and have fun table-flipping.

                  TL;DR: Is there an Enlightenment cycle that is efficient and worth doing? ...Please refer to my calculations, unless you don't want to.

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                  • icontrolyourworld
                    Enjoy life!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4192

                    #39
                    Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                    I think I'm almost done with this game lmao

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                    • .Layne.
                      ~~
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 711

                      #40
                      Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                      i don't think you should be complaining



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                      • icontrolyourworld
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                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4192

                        #41
                        Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                        I guess i can just keep rebirthing it might be more fun to have stats faster and stuff xD

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                        • pmonibuv1
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3236

                          #42
                          Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                          Speaking of Rebirthing, I hit the double digits. :') And 2mil hits. lol

                          FMO AAA's (55): Rottel-Da-Station, Church Bells, Arrogant Cobbler, Grocery Escape Plan, Disconnected Hardkore, Minute Waltz v2, Battle Theme #37, Flight of the Bumblebee, Midnight Dragon, Jeanie and Caroline, Blue-Violet, Puzzle, Kyrie, 300, Largiloquent Dithyramb, Brandish Headless, Going On Spring Wind, Novo Mundo, Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio, Starwolf, Melonman's OP, Summer Time Perfume, Perfect Cherry Storm, Hajnal, Epidermis, Strangeprogram, Thrash, Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit), Choprite, AIM Anthem, Dance and Zeal, Kanon Medley ~Metal Wings~, Clockwork, JULIA, Heavenly Spores, Distorted God, Radio Heads, Epilogue, Spoils, Ripoff, Since 1983, A FLOWER GARDEN, The earth blew up, Phalanx, Chronograph, Black Key Etude, Trinity, super mario bros theme (original NES is awesome), Jack-The-Ripper, Poppin' Shower, cheerful forest, Trisection v2, Devilz Staircase, Colibri, Club

                          FGO AAA's (2): Time To Eye, The Bird's Concrete Nosedive




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                          • icontrolyourworld
                            Enjoy life!
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4192

                            #43
                            Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                            is it way significantly faster in your opinion to get your first enlightenment and stuff o:

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                            • AngelSassin
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 4

                              #44
                              Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                              Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                              is it way significantly faster in your opinion to get your first enlightenment and stuff o:
                              Yes, but you MUST have a significant amount of XP before you do it, otherwise it's a waste of stat points. Make sure you have enough XP to level up at least 200000/(REBIRTH+3) times. It is better when you can add some of these stat points to Neetery, or to Tactics and Rage!!!, and still have some for 20 Hardcoreness.

                              If you're into calculations, then here are some formulas:

                              LVLGAIN = [200000/(REBIRTH+3)]
                              The number of levels you need to gain from buying Enlightenment in order to be able to purchase 20 Hardcoreness again. If you can't see your REBIRTH level, then REBIRTH = 0.

                              XPNEEDED > LVLGAIN*250*(LEVEL + LVLGAIN/2 + 1.5)
                              The amount of XP you need so that buying Enlightenment leaves you with enough to buy it again.

                              Of course, if you wait longer before using Enlightenment, it will be MUCH better for you.

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                              • icontrolyourworld
                                Enjoy life!
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4192

                                #45
                                Re: Kaguya Table Thread

                                i usually sleep on my stat points while i wait for enlightenment, but i dunno if i need to wait that long anymore since i'm at 4 rebirths

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