TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

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  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 93

    #1

    TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    TWG Turbo: Der Freischütz

    9 Players
    Open Setup


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    The theme of this game is "Vengeance." Town roles have a dangerous ability to accelerate the game for better or worse, which requires thoughtful and careful use if town wants to win.

    Wolf roles are mostly suppressive and defensive in nature.

    The game has the potential to be extremely volatile and end quickly.


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    24 hour days/24 hour nights: Days start at 11PM Server time and end at 11pm Server time the next day.
    Phantoms OFF
    Cardflips ON [Full Role Flip]
    KitB ON
    Insta ON
    Nighttalk OFF
    OoTC OFF
    Wolfchat is ON ALL THE TIME
    No-lynch is OFF
    Wolves must kill every night, failure to do so randomizes the kill. All other night actions are not randomized.

    ATTENTION: 3 Post minimum per phase, failure to meet this post count risks modkill by the host


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    Town Roles:

    1 Freikugel:

    During the Night, the Freikugel can either send a strongman vigilante kill (goes through any vest), a ninja vigilante kill (untrackable) or a smart vigilante kill (cannot be stopped by a roleblock).

    Any time the Freikugel uses this power, the host will generate a random number between 1 and 4 and add it to the "bullet count." The bullet count starts at 0. The number of bullets added this way is known to the Freikugel via the host. Once it reaches 7, the action that caused the bullet count to reach 7 is canceled, and instead a "Devils shot" will be executed, causing a random party to control the shot. All surviving players are secretly assigned a number, and a random number is generated between all parties involved.

    > If the random number hits a wolf player, the shot will now kill a random town player (including the Freikugel)

    > If the random number hits a town player, the shot will kill a random player among all living players. (including the Freikugel)

    This shot cannot be tracked and roleblocking the Freikugel will not prevent it. A vest will protect the target from the Devil's shot however. The Freikugel does not know the final target of the shot before it happens. A target killed by this shot will have special flavor text included when the next day starts ("X was killed by the 7th bullet"). If nobody is killed by the "Devils shot", then a special message will be posted at day start. (An ominous shot rings out, but everyone is unharmed).

    Once this happens (Assuming the Freikugel is still alive) the bullet count is reset back to 0 and kills can be made the next night onward as normal, until the bullet count reaches 7 again.

    NOTE: The Soul Stealer town role can affect the number of bullets gained! If the Soul Stealer caused the bullet count to reach 7, then the Freikugel "Devils shot" is forcibly activated. If this happens during the day phase, it will activate the following night.


    1 Soul Stealer

    During the day, at any time from the start of the day until exactly an hour is left in the phase, the Soul Stealer can PM the host via FFR or Discord and make a "request". Once they do this, their vote will count for double during that day and any kitb in which they are a part of during that day will automatically end in their favor, killing the other participant. (In a 3-way kitb or more, the Soul Stealer will be excluded and the host will secretly roll between the players left).

    Any time this power is used, a bullet will be secretly added to the Freikugel's "Bullet count."
    These secret bullets will not be made known to the Freikugel until the "Devils shot" is activated.

    1 Vengeful Spirit:

    The Vengeful Spirit receives no special role message. They instead receive a standard Vanilla Town role PM. When the Vengeful Spirit is killed during the day by vote, the person they were voting for is also killed. If they were not voting for anyone upon death, then a random town player is killed instead.

    When the "Devils shot" is executed, after the special message is posted in the thread the next day start, a role PM is also sent to the Vengeful Spirit, informing them of their role and abilities.

    4 Vanilla town

    ===

    Wolf roles:

    1 Protective JOAT

    Has access to 3 abilities. Only 1 ability can be used per night.

    One shot Vest Gifter (Gives the player of their choosing a one shot bulletproof vest for the rest of the game. The target is not informed that they received a vest.)

    One shot Roleblock (completely cancels the abilities and effects of a role for the current night and the next day phase. The target is not told they are roleblocked, simply nothing will happen when they attempt to use their role.)

    One shot Color Seer (Returns role color of the target. Vengeful Spirit is considered blue even though they are unaware of their role).


    1 Trained Tracker

    Each night, the Trained Tracker can select 2 players. If either of them executes a night action, the Trained Tracker will be informed by the host that an action was executed.

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    Player List

    1. mellonxcollie
    2. Hateandhatred
    3. leetic
    4. Bugkid
    5. Weiss thesunfan
    6. Hakulyte
    7. Roundbox
    8. Arapocalypse
    9. MixMasterLar

    Replacements:

    1. thesunfan
    2. star-crossed
    3.

    Despite the game starting, I am still looking for replacements, send me a PM if you are interested!
    Last edited by FreezinIce; 02-22-2025, 10:26 PM.
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    To let the world be.

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    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
    Originally posted by roundbox
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED
  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 93

    #2
    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    DO NOT POST YET

    It is now Twilight.

    I am now sending out role information, setting up pregame functions and doing some final checks.

    If you have signed up for the game and have not received a role PM, please PM me!

    Twilight is not an actual phase of the game, it is the pregame. The game has not officially started yet

    When Twilight ends, the game will have a day start.

    Twilight ends on 2/21/25, at 11PM server time.
    Last edited by FreezinIce; 02-20-2025, 07:58 PM.
    ========

    To let the world be.

    ========



    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
    Originally posted by roundbox
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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    • FreezinIce
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 93

      #3
      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

      You may now post.

      Day 0 has started.

      The day will end in 24 hours. (2/22 at 11pm server time)
      Last edited by FreezinIce; 02-21-2025, 10:06 PM.
      ========

      To let the world be.

      ========



      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
      Originally posted by roundbox
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
      Originally posted by Red
      My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
      Originally posted by TWG Ike
      SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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      • leetic
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2020
        • 5

        #4
        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

        Finally it begins

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 5

          #5
          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

          Doing the calculations, assuming no interference from the Soul Stealer the Freikugel has an 81.25% chance of getting two shots off uninterupted. If the first roll is a one or a two, it's completely safe in fact. Since town KP is so high it's probably good to aggressively nail down the PoE quickly.

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          • Hateandhatred
            "The Quebec Steparatist."
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2011
            • 1971

            #6
            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

            wow hi
            Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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            • leetic
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2020
              • 5

              #7
              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

              Where is everybody? I'll be damned if I'm the only one to have stayed up this late

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              • leetic
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2020
                • 5

                #8
                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                And ninja'd

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                • leetic
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                  wow hi
                  What are your thoughts on my strategy?

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                  • leetic
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                    This is still too quiet

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                    • Hateandhatred
                      "The Quebec Steparatist."
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1971

                      #11
                      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                      Originally posted by leetic
                      Doing the calculations, assuming no interference from the Soul Stealer the Freikugel has an 81.25% chance of getting two shots off uninterupted. If the first roll is a one or a two, it's completely safe in fact. Since town KP is so high it's probably good to aggressively nail down the PoE quickly.
                      no

                      Originally posted by leetic
                      Where is everybody? I'll be damned if I'm the only one to have stayed up this late
                      yes

                      jk I got up omega early so I'm just gonna come back in this thread early in the morning before I dedicate a single braincell. I literally just came to say hi

                      let's go first twg in like sixty thousand years vbulletin not dead yet
                      Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                      • leetic
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                        no



                        yes

                        jk I got up omega early so I'm just gonna come back in this thread early in the morning before I dedicate a single braincell. I literally just came to say hi

                        let's go first twg in like sixty thousand years vbulletin not dead yet
                        Come on, if you stayed up that late for this game you can give me something

                        And it looks like I'm alone again

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                        • Arapocalypse
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2021
                          • 5

                          #13
                          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                          Mafia hype!!!! A few familiar faces, very hyped and looking forward to playing with you all!!!!!!

                          Some initial setup thoughts:

                          Regarding the Vengeful Spirit, I think the obvious thing here is for the top two wagons to always be voting each other at the end of the day; it would ensure a possible Vengeful Spirit shot is always used, and also help clear up the wagons if so!!

                          Soul Stealer... not going to lie, the first idea that occurred to me was just having everyone to vote themselves to do a mass-tie on day 1; amusing yes, but probably a bit of a waste of the role!!! Realistically speaking, I'd be in favour of trying to save intentional Soul Stealer plays for a bit later in the game; it'd be more effective with a higher mafia ratio, just not too late or the role could die!!!

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                          • Arapocalypse
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2021
                            • 5

                            #14
                            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                            Originally posted by leetic
                            Doing the calculations, assuming no interference from the Soul Stealer the Freikugel has an 81.25% chance of getting two shots off uninterupted. If the first roll is a one or a two, it's completely safe in fact. Since town KP is so high it's probably good to aggressively nail down the PoE quickly.
                            Hey leetic!!!


                            From what I can figure that does seem correct, though the way I got there was not particularly elegant! I'm curious as to what were the calculations you made to get to 81.25%?



                            With those odds in mind, it seems optimal for us to avoid doing any Soul Stealer shenanigans for the first 2 days!!!!


                            Considering this further, unless extra saves/night 2 Devil's shot/whatnot happens then it's very possible that the Freikugel would not want to activate night 3 at all!! In the event that no extra kills happen/no kills are saved, 1 mafia would be dead and there would be 4 alive (3 town/1 mafia) going into the night; we don't want to rand a kill among all players, at that point!!!



                            (Yes it's fully possible that we get an extra kill/save a kill somewhere along the way, this is just for a hypothetical standard night 3!!!!!)

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                            • Arapocalypse
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2021
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                              no



                              yes

                              jk I got up omega early so I'm just gonna come back in this thread early in the morning before I dedicate a single braincell. I literally just came to say hi

                              let's go first twg in like sixty thousand years vbulletin not dead yet
                              Hi there!!!! Gooooooood morning, for when you're up!!!!!

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