TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

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  • bugkid666
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2020
    • 12

    #136
    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    @bugkid666

    For clarity, I'm voting you because you went "lmfao vanilla wolf" / "because stupid" instead of trying to explain your headspace. If I cannot explain more in details why that happened, it becomes difficult for me to look past it.
    i'm sorry but this is pretty dumb logic to me. what is there to explain? i was thinking of several things to say at once and typed wolf instead of town. it's literally the most unfortunate typo, but there's nothing else to that.

    i don't think its a bad thing to vote me because of that, despite it being a mistake, because realistically there's no way for any of you to know whether it was or wasn't. but to say the reason is because i didn't explain it is perplexing to me.

    if i told you i was immensely stressed while typing would it genuinely change your mind? i wasn't, i just made a typo. that's really all there is to it

    Originally posted by FreezinIce
    me being partners with the wolf fruit vendor is also hilarious
    Originally posted by mellonxcollie
    IM ON RED LOBSTER PUBLIC WIFI

    they/them

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    • bugkid666
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2020
      • 12

      #137
      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

      perhaps its anti-town to say so but if i die, i die. you'll all be wrong unfortunately but that's also what a wolf would say. i do understand the need to solve me after that typo, so no hard feelings. i 'm just not really sure how i'm supposed to defend what was an accident. sometimes brain no work!

      i would like to think wolf me would be a little smarter about rereading their posts before posting them. town me just wanted to go back to sleep tho sorry

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      me being partners with the wolf fruit vendor is also hilarious
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      IM ON RED LOBSTER PUBLIC WIFI

      they/them

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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4539

        #138
        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

        Originally posted by Hateandhatred
        Haku is Haku, different rules apply
        You're kind of in my vote pile because I've seen wolves do this in games to reduce aggro from me.

        MML did it too, but the rest of his post imo is too helpful to town if it's done by a wolf. In you case, it's a lot less clear.

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        • Hateandhatred
          "The Quebec Steparatist."
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2011
          • 1971

          #139
          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

          God dammit y'all are fast

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          Blues should definitely make their own choices but I think it would be better if they fired as hard and fast as possible, and I feel it's fair to share that. I said elsewhere in here but will repeat though that I am not interested in town trying to micromanage the targets
          I'm on board with this

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          Inactives being wolves was absolutely true for a good stretch of the time post-covid. If one of the GOATed players rolled wolf (we're talking Charu, Sun, Round, etc) they could keep the count up but their partners would absolutely be in the bottom three posters. I think at one point we had three games in a row that had town policy-voted lowest posted they would have won and after that happened I never left the "Lynch Inactives First" mentality. I should definitely find time to go back over the game history and do math sometimes (I likely won't)

          Plus, even if they are town, inactives almost always stay alive for F5 and F3 and become free CFD fodder for wolves, so really not an upside to keeping them around.
          Aight thanks a bunch for your thoughts on this. I wonder if Sunfan's stats include postcounts, I barely looked into it and I don't even know where to find it

          Originally posted by bugkid666
          i dont really agree with this sentiment because i'm not sure anyone alluded to the fact that the reverse wagon had to be a wolf one. i think it accomplishes "solving" a wagon in case the other fails which can be helpful if the majority of town does in fact want that person solved. the alternative is the vengeful spirit killing someone that nobody else cared about solving. whether or not its necessary to consolidate to two wagons is up for debate but i can at least see the logic behind why someone might think that to be the best option.

          youre missing the entire purpose of vengeful spirit which is that they were sent "vanilla town" and do not know that they are a vengeful spirit until after they are dead. unless you switched to talking about a different PR and i didnt notice?

          see guys i can write vanilla town correctly i promise
          Welp I overlooked the fact that the PR would not know they have the power. That effectively changes my entire reasoning because we can never have a 3 to 2 ratio, or whatever. I feel really dumb right now

          Originally posted by leetic
          You do know you can respond to posts individually without making a wallpost. There's no reason for wolves to claim anything other than VT here as counterclaiming the Freikugel is obviously moronic and counterclaiming Soul Stealer is at best an act of desperation
          It's a turbo so I was just curious about the possibility of claiming PR. But that's off the table considering that the PR balance is not what I initially thought.

          What's wrong with wallposts?
          Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 5

            #140
            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by bugkid666
            perhaps its anti-town to say so but if i die, i die. you'll all be wrong unfortunately but that's also what a wolf would say. i do understand the need to solve me after that typo, so no hard feelings. i 'm just not really sure how i'm supposed to defend what was an accident. sometimes brain no work!

            i would like to think wolf me would be a little smarter about rereading their posts before posting them. town me just wanted to go back to sleep tho sorry
            Lame. He's calling you out for your lack of engagement with the thread, something this post (and the previous one) fails to address. Surely you'd have some alignment related thoughts right now? Do you think Haku and raeko's pushes come from a genuine place?

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            • Hateandhatred
              "The Quebec Steparatist."
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2011
              • 1971

              #141
              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              You're kind of in my vote pile because I've seen wolves do this in games to reduce aggro from me.

              MML did it too, but the rest of his post imo is too helpful to town if it's done by a wolf. In you case, it's a lot less clear.
              Honestly I didn't even say this for any game reason, it's just how I feel every passing second of my life ever since I met you
              Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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              • leetic
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2020
                • 5

                #142
                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                God dammit y'all are fast



                I'm on board with this



                Aight thanks a bunch for your thoughts on this. I wonder if Sunfan's stats include postcounts, I barely looked into it and I don't even know where to find it



                Welp I overlooked the fact that the PR would not know they have the power. That effectively changes my entire reasoning because we can never have a 3 to 2 ratio, or whatever. I feel really dumb right now



                It's a turbo so I was just curious about the possibility of claiming PR. But that's off the table considering that the PR balance is not what I initially thought.

                What's wrong with wallposts?
                It's simply much easier to parse through posts if they're short and to the point, plus it helps when you're available to react in real time rather than spending it all on a single post

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                • Hakulyte
                  the Haku
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4539

                  #143
                  Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                  It's very possible I join MML on the Arapocalypse wagon because I've seen bugkid do "incriminating" plays as town in the past.
                  It might be just as easy to see it as not paying attention to their own post in a genuine way.

                  The vengeful spirit part of the post supports that at least. (because they don't know they are one)

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                  • leetic
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 5

                    #144
                    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by Hakulyte
                    It's very possible I join MML on the Arapocalypse wagon because I've seen bugkid do "incriminating" plays as town in the past.
                    It might be just as easy to see it as not paying attention to their own post in a genuine way.

                    The vengeful spirit part of the post supports that at least. (because they don't know they are one)
                    What are your thoughts on Hate now that they've posted some more?

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                    • Hakulyte
                      the Haku
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4539

                      #145
                      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                      Originally posted by leetic
                      What are your thoughts on Hate now that they've posted some more?
                      In simple words, it feels like commentary. That being said it's day 1 so, it's not completely unexpected.

                      Kinda curious on his reads besides me.

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                      • Hakulyte
                        the Haku
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4539

                        #146
                        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                        @H&H

                        Since no one answered you; "PoE" is process of elimination.

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                        • Hakulyte
                          the Haku
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4539

                          #147
                          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                          Surface level me would vote out weiss/arapocalypse and assume the game is over.

                          Certainly I'm wrong, but yeah.

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                          • mellon_collie
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2017
                            • 78

                            #148
                            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            Surface level me would vote out weiss/arapocalypse and assume the game is over.

                            Certainly I'm wrong, but yeah.
                            why would you assume the game is over if we vote out weiss? do you have that strong town reads on everybody else?

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                            • Hakulyte
                              the Haku
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4539

                              #149
                              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              why would you assume the game is over if we vote out weiss? do you have that strong town reads on everybody else?
                              I wouldn't say strong, but at least reasonable enough. If I decide to trust everyone at face value and follow the narrative that's currently happening, that's how things seems to be to me.

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                              • mellon_collie
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2017
                                • 78

                                #150
                                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                I wouldn't say strong, but at least reasonable enough. If I decide to trust everyone at face value and follow the narrative that's currently happening, that's how things seems to be to me.
                                well you said it was shallow so I guess I can't criticize too much ^^;

                                trusting everyone at face value... that would be easy but idk if that's the case

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