stepmania double standard?

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  • macgravel
    Resident Poopbutt
    FFR Simfile Author
    • May 2004
    • 2405

    #16
    Re: stepmania double standard?

    Originally posted by DukAmok
    take fun fun pharoah. yours is great technically, but reachs is still pretty fun, while using just random patterns.

    i think i get it now though.
    Originally posted by macgravel
    Honestly, I don't care about "technical" or "freeform" files, as long as I get to have fun.
    ^_^

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    • sertman
      DADALADAH
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2005
      • 3910

      #17
      Re: stepmania double standard?

      I agree with Macgravel. I couldn't care less if it's technical, I just want it to be fun. Not like technical files aren't fun, because a lot of them are (especially when made by some of the more 'experienced' technical simfile makers, like ap or blurk) but it needs to be fun

      I'd still rather the notes make some sort of sense, though.

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      • macgravel
        Resident Poopbutt
        FFR Simfile Author
        • May 2004
        • 2405

        #18
        Re: stepmania double standard?

        Originally posted by sertman
        I agree with Macgravel. I couldn't care less if it's technical, I just want it to be fun. Not like technical files aren't fun, because a lot of them are (especially when made by some of the more 'experienced' technical simfile makers, like ap or blurk) but it needs to be fun

        I'd still rather the notes make some sort of sense, though.
        Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
        I don't want it to be random patterns, but I don't really care if it's uber technical, just as long as it makes sense :>

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        • Bursurk_Lurk
          Banned
          • Sep 2005
          • 2360

          #19
          Re: stepmania double standard?

          Originally posted by Zaghurim
          Semi technical freeform is different from technical in that it doesn't repeat the patterns as much. Freeform used on random techno stuff and 16th riffing isn't bad at all IMO, it makes the file more fun to play, but when you have stuff with OBVIOUS pitch like piano and eurobeat synthlines (and scales whenever they're used) I think it's just gay not to take a technical approach.

          For example, Vertex Beta would be kinda weird with a technical approach (or rather, I don't think that'd be possible, haha), but Jurs OP would be boring with freeform.

          Also, Duk, you're trying to compare a Rhapsody 16th stream for 4 minutes with Vunderbar.
          thread has kinda ended since there is no more to discuss after this post

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          • dAnceguy117
            new hand moves = dab
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2002
            • 10097

            #20
            Re: stepmania double standard?

            The first post in this topic further proves that so much of a simfile depends on song choice. If a song is more technical, you have more room for creativity, while still making the simfile fun. If you step a song with generic patterns or if you step same-pitch percussion or something, being technical with it would just make it boring (did someone say something about 48484848482828282828 patterns? I'm assuming that wasn't a quick trill). So many people can take a song and step it about as well as possible now that you need to do something original to stand out.

            As Macgravel and I think Sertman and maybe someome else has pointed out, though, the bottom line for a simfile is that it needs to be fun. There's no reason to play an "original" file with a lack of fun factor. Stepmania is a ****ing game, dammit. "Stream files", however, are generally not very fun. Files with 16th streams I have no problem with. It's different when these streams go on for way too long. They're usually not fun unless they're broken up and aren't broken up repetitively. A big hinderance to fun, I think, is repetition. If stream files are fun, and you decide whether you like a file or not by how fun it is, then I guess Kilga's Air is just the greatest thing ever, huh?

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            • Moogy
              嗚呼
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2003
              • 10303

              #21
              Re: stepmania double standard?

              all files not made by me suck
              Plz visit my blog

              ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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              • Patashu
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2006
                • 8609

                #22
                Re: stepmania double standard?

                Originally posted by Moogy
                all files not made by me suck
                Not quite, -joe-'s uber rave is good too.
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                • Bursurk_Lurk
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 2360

                  #23
                  Re: stepmania double standard?

                  rofl

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                  • macgravel
                    Resident Poopbutt
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • May 2004
                    • 2405

                    #24
                    Re: stepmania double standard?

                    Originally posted by Patashu
                    Not quite, -joe-'s uber rave is good too.
                    You can't be serious -_-

                    HI RANDOM JUMPS

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                    • dascookieman
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3248

                      #25
                      Re: stepmania double standard?

                      I'm pretty sure he was not

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                      • dballin4
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1082

                        #26
                        Re: stepmania double standard?

                        Originally posted by Moogy
                        all files not made by me suck
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                        • Kil-
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 567

                          #27
                          Re: stepmania double standard?

                          I'm making a kenichiro fukui megapack.

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