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  • Penguinosity
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2015
    • 15

    #16
    Re: Full House [RELEASE]

    the connotation that the much of this sphere has given to recharting is something that i can't respect. this idea that because somebody else charted a song, that any future files of that song need to either be “better”, completely different than the original, or just not exist is ridiculous.

    being a critic is one thing, but being disparaging is another. maybe let people make what they want

    Originally posted by XelNya
    I really liked A Cyber's World, Blue Rain, Fuck You, Pipe Dream, Refrain, Roflcopter & Tribal.
    hey good to hear

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    • icontrolyourworld
      Enjoy life!
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2007
      • 4192

      #17
      Re: Full House [RELEASE]

      Originally posted by XelNya
      Choof can be an ass hole, and you can still enjoy playing and charting*. If you don't like getting those comments, you can either stop recharting things (which btw you should rechart stuff if you want, fuck the people who hold one to that level of esteem without giving yours a fair shot) or just do what I do and say fuck it, I release stuff regardless. Then just dismiss the idiotic rambling of some dismissive loser. (And yeah, go ahead and apply that to me when I do it. It's totally fair game.)

      But if you can't be dismissive, then just, like I dunno what to tell you. Probably that quitting would be your better future.

      Anyways.

      I played some of the files in here in the range of what I felt I could fairly offer comments on.

      I really liked A Cyber's World, Blue Rain, Fuck You, Pipe Dream, Refrain, Roflcopter & Tribal.

      Blue Rain is a super fun JS file. (And I fucking hate JS centric stuff.) But probably the most fun of them was Tribal, which I didn't expect to like going into it. But it's super fucking satisfying. Roflcopter is a fun shit-post. I stand by my post from earlier about Doro no Bunzai though, it's not fun and tbh the dump doesn't work for me. Pipe Dream caught me off-guard in a good way.

      If the rest of the pack pack follows most of the files I played, then I'd have to say it's a good pack, but again, those are outta my skill range.

      Also did get a AAA sight-read which was cool. I don't get many of these.
      i'll take the original option i went with, asking choof to chill, i'd like to just get along honestly

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      • BallisticBubba
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2014
        • 1

        #18
        Re: Full House [RELEASE]

        Originally posted by XelNya
        I really liked A Cyber's World, Blue Rain, Fuck You, Pipe Dream, Refrain, Roflcopter & Tribal.
        I appreciate it. (:

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        • _choof
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2022
          • 176

          #19
          Re: Full House [RELEASE]

          Originally posted by XelNya
          Choof can be an ass hole, and you can still enjoy playing and charting*. If you don't like getting those comments, you can either stop recharting things (which btw you should rechart stuff if you want, fuck the people who hold one to that level of esteem without giving yours a fair shot) or just do what I do and say fuck it, I release stuff regardless. Then just dismiss the idiotic rambling of some dismissive loser. (And yeah, go ahead and apply that to me when I do it. It's totally fair game.)
          please shut up

          Originally posted by Penguinosity
          the connotation that the much of this sphere has given to recharting is something that i can't respect. this idea that because somebody else charted a song, that any future files of that song need to either be “better”, completely different than the original, or just not exist is ridiculous.

          being a critic is one thing, but being disparaging is another. maybe let people make what they want
          read the "nicer" post
          just an odd choice of a song to restep
          why bother getting this upset over what was initially a single line of text

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          • Penguinosity
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2015
            • 15

            #20
            Re: Full House [RELEASE]

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            • _choof
              Banned
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2022
              • 176

              #21
              Re: Full House [RELEASE]

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              • icontrolyourworld
                Enjoy life!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2007
                • 4192

                #22
                Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                Originally posted by _choof
                just an odd choice of a song to restep
                i actually stepped my houmous chart 2 years before samurai's was released in acerola (mine being made in 2018 and checking the date created his .sm shows 2020 but the bg and bn show 2019), i wouldn't really consider mine a restep. That being said Samurai's version is solid, he has a different style and is 100% competent at stepping, it's great. I encourage everyone to play that version and my version, and decide for themselves if they like 1 or both.

                I decided to step (not restep) the song because it's an amazing song I had a lot of fun making and I put a lot of effort in to it making it enjoyable, I really like how it came out.


                Originally posted by _choof
                why bother getting this upset over what was initially a single line of text
                I'd like to point out why a single line of text is upsetting as well. The idea of restepping a song being a bad thing is actually very toxic and discouraging and actually drives people away from wanting to be a part of the community and create new stepcharts and packs. Here is an example:

                The negativity outweighs the positive and it is not pretty, we drove Zebdal away in the most toxic bashful and unwelcoming manner possible in 2009 due to his resteps, I bet he could have been an amazing simauthor by now if he kept up the last 13 years. Check the Stepmania France Pack thread.

                I hope this is helpful, and I really hope that we can just enjoy the site and game/pack together. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon, and I anticipate the same holds true for you.
                Last edited by icontrolyourworld; 06-11-2022, 02:34 PM.

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                • _choof
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jun 2022
                  • 176

                  #23
                  Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                  Originally posted by Penguinosity
                  h
                  I have no idea why your quote is still stuck in my multi-quote thing so I'm editing and dumping it here so it stops showing up every time I quote


                  Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                  i actually stepped my houmous chart 2 years before samurai's was released in acerola (mine being made in 2018 and checking the date created his .sm shows 2020 but the bg and bn show 2019), i wouldn't really consider mine a restep. That being said Samurai's version is solid, he has a different style and is 100% competent at stepping, it's great. I encourage everyone to play that version and my version, and decide for themselves if they like 1 or both.
                  if your chart for houmous was released anywhere before acerola then I will bump the acerola thread and direct my "lol houmous restep" at him instead

                  The idea of restepping a song being a bad thing is actually very toxic and discouraging and actually drives people away from wanting to be a part of the community and create new stepcharts and packs.
                  can't recall the last time I said "resteps are bad"
                  in fact, I recently told april it was cool to see a rechart of an old chart of mine that was released in usp lol
                  let me be clear here. the general idea that "resteps are bad, point blank period," is dumb old head shit. I selectively mentioned this one because of song choice and because, as far as etterna pack search shows, all of the other charts for it were done by literal whos. if it's any consolation to you I now know that this song's been charted by at least 5 different people and I also know that yours is probably the second best one.
                  why do you think I mentioned the king crimson and billian songs and not blastix riots restep number 7649812784362

                  The negativity outweighs the positive and it is not pretty, we drove Zebdal away in the most toxic bashful and unwelcoming manner possible in 2009 due to his resteps, I bet he could have been an amazing simauthor by now if he kept up the last 13 years. Check the Stepmania France Pack thread.
                  you were around in 2009 my dude, the level of assholery that a bunch of us engaged in back then would be entirely unacceptable in 2022
                  I looked at the thread and honestly that might be a bad example because, like, there's this post from zebdal himself
                  Originally posted by zebdal the legend
                  it's a megapack of resteps simfiles.
                  so all simfiles have been stepped before.

                  ===>
                  the entire point of that pack was to take stuff from some of the best people making charts back then, and redo them. the link to the pack preview is dead but patashu brings up a goddamn nautilus restep. lol.
                  what's cool about looking at this thread though is that apparently scylaax had a bunch of stuff in the pack as well. had no idea he restepped bf2014 lmao. to be fair that one totally needs a restep. what's even cooler is that scylaax also has charts in acerola too, and they're some of the most memorable in that pack. ludus has a killer solo chart and gigadelic rmx absolutely fucking rules.


                  I hope this is helpful, and I really hope that we can just enjoy the site and game/pack together. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon, and I anticipate the same holds true for you.
                  yeah I know you aren't and that's honestly great. you are de facto one of the reasons that this corner of the rhythm gaming world saw such massive growth in the 2010s. I'm sure some of the newer players are gonna see this and think I'm memeing here, but the nuclear blast pack series was a literal game changer. as far as just stepmania's history is concerned, the only other people I can think of that have had the same level of influence (or more) are people like kil and midare.
                  so keep making charts bub, I know you enjoy it. still gonna poke fun at the songs I think are funny to see new charts for though. also still gonna continue making charts for music that no one listens to.

                  someone pls restep bf2014
                  Last edited by _choof; 06-11-2022, 04:51 PM.

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                  • Elah
                    Etterna Mapper
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 51

                    #24
                    Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                    did not know notepad files made people this emotional
                    [1:55 PM] Halogen-: you are competing with a dangerous shitposter
                    [9:51 PM] Halogen-: manip gang

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                    • _choof
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2022
                      • 176

                      #25
                      Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                      if I had actually gotten laid in high school my kid would be older than some new players right now
                      sorry son you wouldn't understand......

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                      • Elah
                        Etterna Mapper
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 51

                        #26
                        Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                        Originally posted by _choof
                        if I had actually gotten laid in high school my kid would be older than some new players right now
                        sorry son you wouldn't understand......
                        [1:55 PM] Halogen-: you are competing with a dangerous shitposter
                        [9:51 PM] Halogen-: manip gang

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                        • Penguinosity
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 15

                          #27
                          Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                          Originally posted by _choof
                          can't recall the last time I said "resteps are bad"
                          Originally posted by _choof
                          lol houmous restep
                          icy you're cool but I don't need to look at your chart to know it's worse than samurai's
                          downloading to look at 21st century schizoid man and specialist in av then deleting
                          idk, i think that can be inferred through the first message you sent here.

                          im not interested in whatever nuanced thoughts you have on the subject if you don't see the issue with what you said there. pretty much boiled down to

                          "nice file, but too bad this other person's is better. also im gonna look at two things then delete the pack ✌️"

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                          • _choof
                            Banned
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jun 2022
                            • 176

                            #28
                            Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                            also im gonna look at two things then delete the pack ✌️
                            yep the point of this was to be an asshole

                            Originally posted by Penguinosity
                            idk, i think that can be inferred through the first message you sent here.

                            im not interested in whatever nuanced thoughts you have on the subject if you don't see the issue with what you said there. pretty much boiled down to

                            "nice file, but too bad this other person's is better"

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                            • Penguinosity
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 15

                              #29
                              Re: Full House [RELEASE]



                              stay strong

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                              • _choof
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jun 2022
                                • 176

                                #30
                                Re: Full House [RELEASE]

                                check icy's age too and you'll see why the post directed at him has that nuance that you're not interested in hearing about
                                the number of years that dudes like icy and I have played and created content for this game needs two digits, and our output needs three. stick around for another 8 years or so and you won't be one of the literal whos I was referring to
                                Last edited by _choof; 06-11-2022, 05:43 PM.

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