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  • EtienneSM
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2013
    • 1724

    #46
    Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

    I don't know how to explain how indexing nowadays works. For index, we go by the ITG pad scale. If you would like an example of each difficulty, I'll provide a song. It's on YouTube somewhere for each of these charts.

    13- Summer Speedy Remix
    14- Stamina: Crush, Speed: Isolated 00 Princess
    15- Stamina: Tarantula, Speed: Speedcore artists aren't in it for the money
    16- Stamina: Another Planet, Speed: Oh Delia
    17- Stamina: Alive in the Darkness, Speed: Connect 1986
    18- Laser Cannon Deth Sentence
    19- Bokura no 16bit Warz
    20- Sigatrev
    21- Sigatrev expert
    22- Call of the Hound Expert
    25- Guren no Yumiya
    28- Disregard
    30- Stronger

    BPM, how many measures in a stream, etc, are all factors of rating a song. ITG songs have been rated like this for a while now and this is what pretty much every index player I know plays now. Ask Nathan, Eze, and AJ about it. This is essentially how we determine index files. Basing it off of NPS is silly and doesn't determine how difficult a song is. There are more things to factor in rather than just NPS. There's no problem with having jump stream index files, in fact I encourage it. But you have understand that the index style has progressed. If we want to play accuracy stuff, we'll play the thousands of 10's-19's that have been made by pad authors, considering all of the files are index friendly. But if we want to play fast stuff, we always end up resorting to rate-modding songs and it gets boring. The purpose of this pack is to create files that the index community now will play. Everyone I know that started out on index started out on 14-16's and now they're passing 22's-25's.



    I apologize if my explaining is bad, but I really don't know what else to say.
    Last edited by EtienneSM; 04-7-2014, 07:03 PM.
    Quality quotes:

    Originally posted by KgZ
    enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
    Originally posted by Izzy
    I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
    Originally posted by kommisar
    nps is still a better idea for ratings
    Originally posted by klimtkiller
    there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
    Originally posted by Rapta
    My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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    • DossarLX ODI
      Batch Manager
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2008
      • 14989

      #47
      Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

      I'm wondering how fast crossover files would be received.

      I came up with these kinds of ratings for DDR files on rates (debatable):
      Fascination MAXX Challenge 2.0: 25
      PSMO 2.0 rate: 25
      Valkyrie Dimension Challenge CMOD 1.5: 25
      Healing D Vision Challenge CMOD 1.7: 25
      Fascination Eternal Love Mix Challenge 2.0: 26

      It is possible to assign ratings to rates like that, and I think a few fast crossover files would be awesome.
      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 04-7-2014, 07:16 PM.
      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • EtienneSM
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2013
        • 1724

        #48
        Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

        Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
        I'm wondering how fast crossover files would be received.

        I came up with these kinds of ratings for DDR files on rates (debatable):
        Fascination MAXX Challenge 2.0: 25
        PSMO 2.0 rate: 25
        Valkyrie Dimension Challenge CMOD 1.5: 25
        Fascination Eternal Love Mix Challenge 2.0: 26

        It is possible to assign ratings to rates like that, and I think a few fast crossover files would be awesome.
        I think it's best if rate mods are not rated. They're just two weird to rate, lol. Speaking of crossovers, you should definitely try to step something for this.
        Quality quotes:

        Originally posted by KgZ
        enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
        Originally posted by Izzy
        I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
        Originally posted by kommisar
        nps is still a better idea for ratings
        Originally posted by klimtkiller
        there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
        Originally posted by Rapta
        My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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        • DossarLX ODI
          Batch Manager
          Game Manager
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2008
          • 14989

          #49
          Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

          Alright then, might step something like a 240 bpm crossover file. Speeds above 240 for crossovers are basically crapshoots if they're turns less than 8 notes
          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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          • dAnceguy117
            new hand moves = dab
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2002
            • 10097

            #50
            Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

            Originally posted by DigitalS3r4ph
            Good grief man, people take difficulty scales seriously nowadays haha. I have no idea WTF an 18-70 scale or whatever the shits you guys are talking about is...I'm just going to make a file that will be fun to play on index and hopefully be challenging to AAA or AAAA like I usually do.
            it's not *that* big of a deal. it's not like it affects the quality of your simfile. what it does affect, though, is the presentation.

            we can make index files and give all of them difficulty ratings of 10 and not many people here would care. BUT, if you want to advertise this pack in other communities, then the difficulty rating scale should match their conventions. would you rather a dozen people play your file, or 200 people?

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            • DigitalS3r4ph
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2007
              • 984

              #51
              Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

              I'm still surprised a dozen people play this game, much less 200 people.
              (Don't mind me, I'm a stepman relic :P)
              Last edited by DigitalS3r4ph; 04-7-2014, 09:24 PM.

              PM me if you find the secret.

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              • NeoMaxx69
                Bad at spread
                • Jun 2005
                • 424

                #52
                Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                I have a few files in mind for this.

                I was going to make a huge post, but I don't feel like arguing/getting into debates about ratings since they are all suggestive anyway so I'm just gonna reply with "lol"

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                • Ziemniax
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 169

                  #53
                  Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                  If you don't know what to step, just find some extratone.

                  Sprindex style player from Poland.
                  My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChW...zwbcEXVdMocktg
                  https://www.mediafire.com/?whqcjgmx129tme0 SPREAD THE INDEX OUT NOW

                  I hate arguing about my playstyle.

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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 14989

                    #54
                    Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                    I submitted a 22 with 230 bpm 16th crossovers.
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                    • rCaliberGX
                      D7 Elite Keymasher
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2337

                      #55
                      Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                      sent weed circulation and ghost house (they're really old and have horrid patterns but good luck rofl)

                      Released!

                      Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                      you look like you're dSucks

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                      • kmay
                        Don't forget me
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6511

                        #56
                        Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                        how perfect i just started playing index again

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                        • EtienneSM
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1724

                          #57
                          Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                          Received the files Caliber and Dossar, will post reviews when the judges and I test them out. Probably not until later tonight/tomorrow. Updated OP as well.
                          Also, requesting thread title change to "Indexjawns (Submissions open)"
                          Last edited by EtienneSM; 04-12-2014, 10:23 AM.
                          Quality quotes:

                          Originally posted by KgZ
                          enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                          Originally posted by kommisar
                          nps is still a better idea for ratings
                          Originally posted by klimtkiller
                          there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                          Originally posted by Rapta
                          My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                          • Izzy
                            Snek
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 9195

                            #58
                            Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                            Think I'm going to have to retract my interest in this. I don't think our ideals are similar enough for me to get behind this.

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                            • SKG_Scintill
                              Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3875

                              #59
                              Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                              sent something btw





                              Originally posted by bluguerilla
                              So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                              ___
                              . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                              . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                              .

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                              • SKG_Scintill
                                Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 3875

                                #60
                                Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                                double post

                                file too easy?





                                Originally posted by bluguerilla
                                So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                                ___
                                . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                                . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                                .

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