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  • EtienneSM
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2013
    • 1724

    #16
    Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

    Originally posted by Izzy
    I'll probably submit some files. For some reason I just have the urge to play index and make some more difficult index based files.

    I could probably help judge or suggest what kind of guidelines are needed to be considered an index file.
    If you want a good idea for modern-index files, look into Aoero's Index Jawn, I tried applying some of the stuff from there to my files but they never work out, lol. So if you could give me a few pointers, that'd be awesome.



    And if you could help judge, that'd be awesome, same with you, Rebirth as well.

    And Emulord, FFR's Strangeprogram would be considered a 17. A 12 is something lots of people can do on pad. This pack is meant for index.
    Quality quotes:

    Originally posted by KgZ
    enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
    Originally posted by Izzy
    I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
    Originally posted by kommisar
    nps is still a better idea for ratings
    Originally posted by klimtkiller
    there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
    Originally posted by Rapta
    My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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    • Izzy
      Snek
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2003
      • 9195

      #17
      Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

      What does "Jawn" even mean?

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      • Wafles
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2013
        • 1988

        #18
        Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

        I will submit a few to this. I have some ideas. Don't expect much harder than 19 or 20 from me.

        Should help my motivation to get better at index as well.

        http://smleaderboards.net/profile/view/Wafles

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        • James May
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2012
          • 3817

          #19
          Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

          Originally posted by Izzy
          What does "Jawn" even mean?
          some third world term that was given a definition to in urban dictionary.

          Jawn: Philly slang for a person, place, or thing (Jawn).
          bananas


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          • kommisar
            Dark Chancellor
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jun 2005
            • 7327

            #20
            Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

            Originally posted by EtienneSM
            Considering almost every index player plays songs that are 21+, or we just rate mod pad files, so I'm looking for harder stuff. Anything less than an 18, I would just consider your average pad file. Index is a KB style so I'm looking for stuff that's meant for KB and not pad as much.
            this is a misconception


            REAL index players don't always play hardpain fast footspeed songs. They play songs that are still relatively technical and have jump patterns to make it a little more demanding.


            see duplica's tinkerbot battle and risky boots files

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            • rCaliberGX
              D7 Elite Keymasher
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2012
              • 2337

              #21
              Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

              Originally posted by emulord
              Strangeprogram (ffr) is the hardest index chart I play. I think you're overestimating the difficulties that people like for index. Id consider going down to 12
              Originally posted by ilikexd
              wat
              wat

              might submit some stuff (maybe those ghost house and weed circulation files i made in 30 minutes months ago rofl)

              Released!

              Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
              you look like you're dSucks

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              • dAnceguy117
                new hand moves = dab
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2002
                • 10097

                #22
                Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                "real indexers" oh c'mon I agree though, I like variation in style.

                Originally posted by EtienneSM
                -Difficulty must be from 18-36.
                is that for the most difficult chart included in the file, or are no notecharts below 18 accepted? I don't see any reason to disallow full sets.

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                • EtienneSM
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1724

                  #23
                  Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                  Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                  "real indexers" oh c'mon I agree though, I like variation in style.



                  is that for the most difficult chart included in the file, or are no notecharts below 18 accepted? I don't see any reason to disallow full sets.
                  There can't be a chart that's harder than a 36, considering a 31's only been passed so far.
                  17 and below has to be either really technical or just a joke file.
                  Quality quotes:

                  Originally posted by KgZ
                  enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                  Originally posted by Izzy
                  I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                  Originally posted by kommisar
                  nps is still a better idea for ratings
                  Originally posted by klimtkiller
                  there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                  Originally posted by Rapta
                  My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                  • dAnceguy117
                    new hand moves = dab
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10097

                    #24
                    Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                    to clarify, could a simfile have an expert chart at 20, and also have two lower charts at 14 and 17? or would you remove the easier charts?

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                    • EtienneSM
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1724

                      #25
                      Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                      Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                      to clarify, could a simfile have an expert chart at 20, and also have two lower charts at 14 and 17? or would you remove the easier charts?
                      If the lower difficulties are fun enough for index, I'll probably put it in the pack.
                      Quality quotes:

                      Originally posted by KgZ
                      enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                      Originally posted by Izzy
                      I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                      Originally posted by kommisar
                      nps is still a better idea for ratings
                      Originally posted by klimtkiller
                      there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                      Originally posted by Rapta
                      My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                      • Rebirth0
                        FFR Originalbro
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 8751

                        #26
                        Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                        So what is this difficulty system? "18 - 36." Is that the FFR difficulty range (out of 100)? Or what?

                        If so that's incredibly easy and people could do files one FINGERED. If I play with hands off I could index some 70s in FFR without much difficulty
                        Last edited by Rebirth0; 04-7-2014, 01:59 PM.

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                        • EtienneSM
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1724

                          #27
                          Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                          Originally posted by Rebirth0
                          So what is this difficulty system? "18 - 36." Is that the FFR difficulty range (out of 100)? Or what?

                          If so that's incredibly easy and people could do files one FINGERED
                          For index, we go by pad scale.

                          To see what higher difficulties look like, I'd suggest looking at this.

                          Quality quotes:

                          Originally posted by KgZ
                          enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                          Originally posted by kommisar
                          nps is still a better idea for ratings
                          Originally posted by klimtkiller
                          there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                          Originally posted by Rapta
                          My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                          • kommisar
                            Dark Chancellor
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 7327

                            #28
                            Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                            he basically means stuff as hard as sigatrev

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                            • Rebirth0
                              FFR Originalbro
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 8751

                              #29
                              Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                              I looked at 5 - 6 files in that pack. I'm not so sure this should be used as any kind of reference. The guy seems to think index files are nothing but fast streams and a jump every 200 - 300 notes. One file even had hands in it, which isn't HORRIBLE but it isn't what is called "indexable." I also don't really like the difficulty system. It seems just fine to use the 10 - 15 foot method like we always have, especially in 2003 - 2006

                              Those files are not what index files should be like. You gotta have technicality to your files. Jumpstream is honestly alright as long as it isn't too fast or as long as it doesn't contain hands. Hayden's Stunt Flying is a perfect example of an indexable jumpstream file. Though it is very difficult and would be on the higher end of the scale on what is acceptable

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                              • Izzy
                                Snek
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 9195

                                #30
                                Re: Indexjawns (Index pack idea)

                                On a standard ddr / itg pad scale a 25 would be impossible on index let alone a 36. A 20 would be close to the absolute limit of difficulty for an index file if that is the scale you are using.

                                By the way for me to work on this pack it would really need to have some serious quality standards and guidelines. It also definitely can't be called "indexjawns". Unfortunately that word is just incredibly stupid and turns me off to this. Something like "Index Community I" is a lot more professional sounding. I know a lot of you love the whole dump files and shitfest of packs, but I can't bring myself to work on something that wouldn't have some standard of quality.

                                This should be something both a new casual player and veterans can find entertaining. So just being "fun" isn't enough of a quality check.

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