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  • bmah
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    • Oct 2003
    • 8448

    #16
    Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

    Something maybe worth mentioning regarding pitch-relevancy: there are multiple ways of conveying an ascending or descending melody line. This can be achieved through symmetry.

    The basic example is 1234 or 4321, but what if the melody line ascends/descends for more than four notes? Use symmetrical patterns that give a generally ascending/descending impression. Some examples:

    5 notes: 13243, 42312, 21324, 34231
    6 notes: 121324, 213243, 131424, 123234, 234123, etc.
    7 notes: 1213243, 2132434, etc.
    8 notes: 12132434, 43423121, 21314243, 34241312

    This would most likely fit within your Advanced Pitch Relevance/Counterpoint section.

    Dunno if you mentioned this but certain patterns may provide different "textures" to the file. e.g. smooth, streamlined stuff may be 1234321, while a "bumpy" texture may be 1324132. I call them textures because the patterns affect the way your fingers move from one arrow to the next.
    Last edited by bmah; 03-4-2013, 02:01 PM.

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    • robertsona
      missa in h-moll
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2006
      • 3997

      #17
      Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

      aihgt man we cool

      good guide son, glad to see youre still on that stepmania grind, u should like teach stepmania or some hsit

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      • stargroup100
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        • Jul 2006
        • 2051

        #18
        Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

        Originally posted by bmah
        Something maybe worth mentioning regarding pitch-relevancy: there are multiple ways of conveying an ascending or descending melody line. This can be achieved through symmetry.

        The basic example is 1234 or 4321, but what if the melody line ascends/descends for more than four notes? Use symmetrical patterns that give a generally ascending/descending impression. Some examples:

        5 notes: 13243, 42312, 21324, 34231
        6 notes: 121324, 213243, 131424, 123234, 234123, etc.
        7 notes: 1213243, 2132434, etc.
        8 notes: 12132434, 43423121, 21314243, 34241312

        This would most likely fit within your Advanced Pitch Relevance/Counterpoint section.
        Seems really specific. I think this is implicitly covered in multiple places.

        Originally posted by bmah
        Dunno if you mentioned this but certain patterns may provide different "textures" to the file. e.g. smooth, streamlined stuff may be 1234321, while a "bumpy" texture may be 1324132. I call them textures because the patterns affect the way your fingers move from one arrow to the next.
        While this is implicitly implied through connotation and advanced PR, I suppose it could be worth mentioning. Only issue is that it's not enough to warrant a whole entry but it doesn't belong anywhere as of yet. If I can find somewhere to stick it eventually I'll add it.

        Originally posted by robertsona
        good guide son, glad to see youre still on that stepmania grind, u should like teach stepmania or some hsit
        *teach notecharting

        and yes i should
        Rhythm Simulation Guide
        Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

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        • robertsona
          missa in h-moll
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          • Dec 2006
          • 3997

          #19
          Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

          how cool would that be

          formulating a syllabus of historically important stepfiles

          maybe have a few screenings

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          • stargroup100
            behanjc & me are <3'ers
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            • Jul 2006
            • 2051

            #20
            Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

            Creating a course out of it wouldn't be very difficult. In fact, most of the guide I just made can easily be adapted and translated into a course with some work.
            Rhythm Simulation Guide
            Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

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            • Razor
              Dan "Razor" Devilz
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              • May 2004
              • 1606

              #21
              Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

              a copy of this thread should be put in the ffr songs sub-forum imo
              Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
              Best FFR file from 2013:
              3rd: Retro City
              Originally posted by Choofers
              I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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              • Choofers
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                • Dec 2008
                • 6205

                #22
                Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                this should be sent to jae immediately

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                • NeoMasterPie
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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1405

                  #23
                  Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                  agreed
                  how 2 make a file (click da screenshot)
                  Last edited by NeoMasterPie; 03-4-2013, 05:15 PM.

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                  • FissionMailed1
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1267

                    #24
                    Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                    I really like the direction this guide is headed and it looks really good so far. Awesome job with this!


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                    • Razor
                      Dan "Razor" Devilz
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                      • May 2004
                      • 1606

                      #25
                      Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                      Originally posted by Choofers
                      this should be sent to jae immediately
                      iwbed
                      Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
                      Best FFR file from 2013:
                      3rd: Retro City
                      Originally posted by Choofers
                      I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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                      • kommisar
                        Dark Chancellor
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                        • Jun 2005
                        • 7324

                        #26
                        Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                        it's still subjective

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                        • stargroup100
                          behanjc & me are <3'ers
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                          • Jul 2006
                          • 2051

                          #27
                          Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                          except its not
                          Rhythm Simulation Guide
                          Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

                          Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

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                          • Xx{Midnight}xX
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 8548

                            #28
                            Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                            Originally posted by Razor
                            a copy of this thread should be put in the ffr songs sub-forum imo
                            Dude pretty much we could say Stargroup wrote the goddamned FAQ for that. This is literally everything you need to know.

                            Like seriously. Everything.

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                            • bmah
                              shots FIRED
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                              #29
                              Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                              Stickied the thread.

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                              • Roar176
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                                • Aug 2008
                                • 235

                                #30
                                Re: Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting

                                I read most of that sh*ite and it's g00de

                                I don't like the introduction to notecharting it's really influencing

                                You make it sound like "scoring files" and "artistic files" are two distinctives things which is something I noticed and disliked about you when you reviewed FFR4 because it seemed to me that because you can't play anything that goes beyond X NPS (X being your skill) therefore file goes to the "scoring files category". Seeing things that way, your opinion on a file is subjected to change if you gain or lose skills. If you are able to play the file then you will start seeing beyond the heavy loads of notes. Okay the reviews are subjective but if you do the same sh*ite in your guide it's not gonna work.
                                The way you say it it looks like if you do a file for "scoring" (I f*ucking h8 that word) a.k.a. it goes beyond X NPS the chart is devoid of any artistic value and obviously an "artistic" file cannot be made for "scoring".
                                And that sh*ite is wrong.

                                On top of that you obviously make it sound that making "artistic" files is the way to go. You start by saying that files made for "scoring" purposes are not serious and "artistic" files are the Rael Daels.
                                I read this multiple times:
                                "Oh you know ... you can do decent notecharts with basic knowledge you can make scoring files *giggleZ* ... or you can go pro and make artistic stuff with me. l00k @dis Grace notes OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH" ~Bufang The Apache
                                Obviously when you read it like that you don't wanna do "scoring" files it just sounds like it's for da newbs.

                                Anyways only separating the two things is already enough bullsh*ite to me. Difficulty doesn't make anything less artistic and you should know it after your X years of stepmania overseer career. Whenever someone mentions the word "scoring" he still has something to learn (that thing is there no such Thang as scoring files (proven by Nordic players (just click on Brag Board once in a while and you will see))).

                                But besides the introduction it's g00de stuff. Lots of techniques that people can learn. People should see it as a "tips & tricks" to notecharting and everything is okay. Most of the articles are very informative and not influencing or just slightly (as opposed to the intro). Needs more articles. GJ Steve.
                                Last edited by Roar176; 03-5-2013, 05:04 AM. Reason: f*uck u detrin00be !!
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