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  • Boochypa
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2003
    • 83

    #1

    Using two hands

    Is there any kind of concrete strategy for using both hands to play stepmania other than "practice"?

    I've tried it several times and found it thoroughly impossible.
  • Brainmaster07
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2003
    • 2891

    #2
    Practice! Wait...

    Bah, I played one handed for about the first month I played the game, until I had thouroughly concluded beating levels like revo was impossible one handed. So I switched over to two handed, at first it was really weird, but an hour later I could beat levels 4 times hard, I went from not being able to pass BTC to passing caprice /shrug. Just find whatever position works for you and, well... practice .

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    • Boochypa
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2003
      • 83

      #3
      That's the whole point...a lot of songs ARE essentially impossible with only one hand. That's the only reason I'm considering using both.

      I was thinking more along the lines of "Which fingers do I use for which keys?"

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      • SolitaryTurnip
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2003
        • 11

        #4
        Index and middle (right) for up and right... middle and index (left) for left and down. That's what I do, anyway.

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        • Brainmaster07
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2003
          • 2891

          #5
          Originally posted by SolitaryTurnip
          Index and middle (right) for up and right... middle and index (left) for left and down. That's what I do, anyway.
          I do the same, except middle and ring on the right, my index's hit each other if I try it your way, messing up any type or run pretty much.

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          • Kilgamayan
            Super Scooter Happy
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2003
            • 6583

            #6
            Originally posted by Boochypa
            That's the whole point...a lot of songs ARE essentially impossible with only one hand.
            Blur's the only one I can think of. I seem to recall Reach one-handing Payon once, and I can't think of anything else mainstream that's harder.
            I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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            • Brainmaster07
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2003
              • 2891

              #7
              Originally posted by Kilgamayan
              Originally posted by Boochypa
              That's the whole point...a lot of songs ARE essentially impossible with only one hand.
              Blur's the only one I can think of. I seem to recall Reach one-handing Payon once, and I can't think of anything else mainstream that's harder.
              Even I can beat payon one handed :O, mashing of course, but I can.

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              • Kilgamayan
                Super Scooter Happy
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2003
                • 6583

                #8
                I haven't figured out how to mash Payon yet.
                I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                • jimerax
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8185

                  #9
                  just practice..

                  It needed about 1 or 2 months for me to get accustomed completely to 2 hands.

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                  • Moogy
                    嗚呼
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 10303

                    #10
                    Reach AAd Payon 1 one handed and got a B or A (don't remember) on Payon 2. He also Bd Revo and Bd Ice Climber v2 oni one handed. The only song that is unbeatable with one hand is indeed Blur.
                    Plz visit my blog

                    ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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                    • Reach
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 7471

                      #11
                      Heh, you can become insanely good with 1 hand. I've reached a level where i can beat every stepfile someone throws at me one hand...hell, I almost AAA'd freedom or fire first try 1 handed.

                      Mind you, it takes 10x more practise to become good with 1 hand. And you'll never be able to preform as good as a 2 hander on stages with comstant streams...ex. fotbb, caprice.

                      As for 2 hands...use your index fingers, or 4 fingers...whatever feels more comfortable. 2 index fingers...you just alternate, left and right. 4 fingers is much easier though. Practise things like max300 heavy untill you become more comfortable with SM timing and different patterns.

                      Eventually, you want to take on the hardest stepfiles you can find, and try and pass them. Playing hard stepfiles will improve your skill quickly. You'll never get really good only playing stuff at BMR's V level.

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                      • Snapps
                        NO DOUBT GET LOUD
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5650

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jimerax
                        just practice..

                        It needed about 1 or 2 months for me to get accustomed completely to 2 hands.
                        Tis took me two days sir.

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                        • fusi0n
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 2158

                          #13
                          when i first started i started on the standard two handed playing pos..felt the most natural
                          and i play on reverse scroll, which nobody else seems to use :\ i guess its cuz i played Amplitude on ps2 a lot

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                          • Amfew
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 49

                            #14
                            You know, (on FFR) you can use the numpad too, so left hand on the arrow keys and right hand on the numpad(8 and 6), that way it's not so cramped and your fingers will never touch each other. If you want.

                            And it took me like two hours to get used to four finger, just keep at it and play the right stepfiles. Once max300 gets too easy, you might want to play stuff with lots of doubles as I remember one distinct hurdle when learning 2 hand was coordinating doubles. Cynic's At Least I Can Say I Tried has alot of doubles and isn't really crazy or intimidating like gravity or arrabbiata.

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                            • altairian
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2055

                              #15
                              Take Reach's advice.
                              I've been playing bemani games for like, 6 months, and I'm already pretty darned good at SM if I do say so myself, thanks to Reach

                              The important thing is to go with what's comfortable for you. 1 hand is harder, but it's not impossible. If you get uber l33t like reach with 1 hand you'll have 1 forearm be like 2 inches bigger around than the other O_O
                              Reach: there was this bee. i hate bee\'s...i tryed to kill it, but then it didn\'t die and it started making weird noises so i was like oh (#$% hes gonna sting me. i started running but i triped over some rock and rolled down a hill into the river.

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