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  • johnnyhoney0
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 73

    #1

    How do YOU arrow?

    I've been wondering something for a while, and I want to ask an open question so I can get some ideas.

    I used to play one-handed, and that worked for a while, but I realized that I was missing out on the harder songs, so I switched to two-handed (four-fingers). That's been working out very well for me, and I've progressed fairly well in my ability to do more and more difficult songs.

    I saw Arch0wl's (in?)famous video of him AAA'ing Quasar using just his index fingers (indexing). So I tried to learn how to index, but I hated it, so I just went back to four-finger. The problem now is I'm having a bit of trouble with doubles using the arrow keys. My fingers all bunched up so it's hard to get everything when I see it. I can read the arrows and understand what I'm supposed to push, but I can't get all of them.

    I thought at first that maybe it was because my arrow keys were worn out from so much use, so I got a new keyboard (I had been needing a new one anyway). But when I got the new keyboard, it didn't really help much. That's when I heard someone talking about a spread set, or at least that's what they called it. So now I have my left and down keys on B and N and my up and right keys on 8 and 6, respectively. Arms father apart = less bunched up = more accuracy. This is working well, and I'm starting to see myself improving a little bit.

    Now, my question is, how do you have your keys set up to play? Do you play one-handed, two-handed, index? Also, what would you say are the pros and cons of playing any way?

    Long post, I know. I'm a bit of a rambler.


    Originally posted by AriesMalvis
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    Originally posted by jamuko
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  • -Tibs-
    FFR Player
    • May 2006
    • 5235

    #2
    Re: How do YOU arrow?

    I mainly play index on arrow keys. I sometimes play spread on qw89, but not nearly as well.

    Generally you'll find that Index = Accuracy, Spread = Speed and One-Hands lets you drink coke while playing.

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    • MagicCarpetRide
      Skware One
      • Jun 2006
      • 1125

      #3
      Re: How do YOU arrow?

      I miss the old days when i played one handed and ate cheez-its the whole time that i played. Now i have to eat **** in between songs that i play, It sucks but it is helping me lose weight......although i am underweight... Play one handed if you want to get fat... spread if you want to be cool... and index if you want all the ladies to like you.

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      • johnnyhoney0
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2005
        • 73

        #4
        Re: How do YOU arrow?

        LOL, I'll keep that in mind.

        Especially the part about the ladies. /sarcasm


        Originally posted by AriesMalvis
        ppl like you do make things so much easier
        Originally posted by jamuko
        you clearly know what you're talking about
        This has been another johnnyhoney0 fix!

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        • ddrfreak925
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 522

          #5
          Re: How do YOU arrow?

          Why do people think that they are cool just because they play sm/ddr/itg all of a sudden?

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          • Megmo
            FFR Veteran
            • Sep 2006
            • 250

            #6
            Re: How do YOU arrow?

            I used to play one handed with my right hand. Then I switched to two hands three fingers. That works by hitting the left arrow with your left index and with your right hand hitting the up and down arrows with your other index and then the right arrow with your middle finger on the same hand. That's what was comfortable for me cuz I'm a righty. That was better than one hand but not good enough so I learned spread. I place two fingers on the 8 and 6 keys on the number pad and my other two fingers and the left and down arrows. This works best in my opinion but it takes a while to get used to. If you want to sacrifice the time to get better at this method it is worth it as spread is what most of the better players use from what I hear.

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            • johnnyhoney0
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2005
              • 73

              #7
              Re: How do YOU arrow?

              Originally posted by ddrfreak925
              Why do people think that they are cool just because they play sm/ddr/itg all of a sudden?
              Unnecessary comment? Off topic?

              Anyway, I tried left arrow, down arrow, 8, 6 for a while, but I think my arrow keys are worn out, because I started hitting quite a few ups and rights and fewer lefts and downs. So I switched the arrows to B and N. Works a little better for me now.


              Originally posted by AriesMalvis
              ppl like you do make things so much easier
              Originally posted by jamuko
              you clearly know what you're talking about
              This has been another johnnyhoney0 fix!

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              • dore
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                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 6317

                #8
                Re: How do YOU arrow?

                qw89, although I'm probably going to switch to zx23 since those keys are more responsive on this keyboard.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                • johnnyhoney0
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Re: How do YOU arrow?

                  I don't know, zx23 and qw89 and left down 86 all seem too bunched up still. If I had one of those keyboards that had the letters split down the middle and slanted, that would probably make things easier.


                  Originally posted by AriesMalvis
                  ppl like you do make things so much easier
                  Originally posted by jamuko
                  you clearly know what you're talking about
                  This has been another johnnyhoney0 fix!

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                  • dore
                    caveman pornstar
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 6317

                    #10
                    Re: How do YOU arrow?

                    zx (numpad) 23

                    Those are on opposite sides of the keyboard lol

                    If you want each individual finger further apart, you can try qslp or qxmp or something like that.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                    • Patashu
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #11
                      Re: How do YOU arrow?

                      QWOP spread

                      And my mind is incapable of processing the movements required for index so that's out of the question.
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                      • ddrfreak925
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 522

                        #12
                        Re: How do YOU arrow?

                        Originally posted by johnnyhoney0
                        Unnecessary comment? Off topic?

                        Anyway, I tried left arrow, down arrow, 8, 6 for a while, but I think my arrow keys are worn out, because I started hitting quite a few ups and rights and fewer lefts and downs. So I switched the arrows to B and N. Works a little better for me now.
                        00ps i forgot teh quote... Its that I read A post on this thread about it.

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                        • -Tibs-
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2006
                          • 5235

                          #13
                          Re: How do YOU arrow?

                          Just to clarify, when I said qw89, I meant 89 on the Numpad.

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                          • DraikRoan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 64

                            #14
                            Re: How do YOU arrow?

                            I have a weird setup. I play with both hands, but I only use my left index finger for key 4(Left). I plant my Right thumb on the 2 key(Down), my right index finger on the 8 key (Up) and my right middle finger on the 6 key(Right). One of the grievences of my setup is that is theres ALOT of down notes in a long series (lets say a jackhammer) my thumb starts to hurt a bit. I play on both the number pad and the directional keys respectively. Im currently trying to learn the spread setup so I dont need to use my thumb.

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                            • johnnyhoney0
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 73

                              #15
                              Re: How do YOU arrow?

                              Originally posted by Patashu
                              And my mind is incapable of processing the movements required for index so that's out of the question.
                              Hah, I know what you mean. I saw that age-old Arch0wl video and I'm thinking...oh man. Since I can barely FC Quasar on 1.4x music, I don't even want to think about everything it takes to be a good indexer.

                              And yea Draik, that is weird. I've never heard of anyone using their thumb, at all. But I put my fingers (and thumb) where you have them set up and tried playing, it was impossible.

                              Originally posted by dore
                              qslp or qxmp
                              Well, that's too spread, for me at least. I just have to have my hands spread, but if my fingers are spread out more than right next to each other, my arms get tired more easily.


                              Originally posted by AriesMalvis
                              ppl like you do make things so much easier
                              Originally posted by jamuko
                              you clearly know what you're talking about
                              This has been another johnnyhoney0 fix!

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