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  • vince511
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2004
    • 368

    #16
    <<How would drumming make you better at indexing?>>

    One drumming thing I do to build my speed is just sit down, and see what the fastest tempo I can play 16th notes for exactly one minute is. When I first started doing this every day quite a while ago, I could only go a full minute at 175. Over time I would bump the tempo and ease myself into faster tempos, and I can now hold 16ths for a minute at 216. That's 864 strokes in one minute.

    I noticed as my "speed endurance" kept building like that, passing songs like Reality and being able to FC quick things like Hayden's Gaussian Blur V2 (almost got it, I suck at running man's) became excessively easier. Having well-toned "chops" had an adverse effect on my indexing, in terms of speed and timing, and becuase I haven't been drumming the last couple months I've noticed a dropoff in my indexing.

    It also works to build speed in shorter bursts, to FC things like that bastard 300 bpm 16th note run in Arch's Paranoia Respect. I can almost get all the way through it without a good or a miss now.
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    • SMGod
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2003
      • 1830

      #17
      ? People can go through those paranoia respect 16th with basically all marvs. And... 16ths at 216 for a min or so isn't that fast. There are people who can do 265 or so. Like people can AAA reality and that is 259 16th. And we can PA anything up to around 265-270...

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      • vince511
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2004
        • 368

        #18
        Those are finger muscles. It takes a little more endurance on a drum, especially for a whole minute, not dropping one single note. More muscle groups are involved, primarily. I know there's people who can hold 16ths in the 265-280 range for a good amount of time, but most of them also drum for a living. It's just been a hobby of mine for a few years.

        I tried a few runs at Para Respect again and finally got through the run with just 2-3 greats at the tail end. My problem was that my finger on the down key was arched too much and sometimes my other finger would bump into it.
        I\'m like an idea machine.
        Feed me a taco and I come up with a good idea.

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        • SMGod
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2003
          • 1830

          #19
          on drummania I can do trills almost as fast and I don't even drum

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          • vince511
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2004
            • 368

            #20
            Then you're musically inclined beyond all recognition.
            I\'m like an idea machine.
            Feed me a taco and I come up with a good idea.

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            • Arch0wl-R2
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2004
              • 143

              #21
              Vince, I can get my same max speed if I hold the stick with my palm, but place and hold my index on the stick, like as if you were taking a fingerprint or something. I don't know how to word it better than that, though.

              You're thinking about if you just straight out hold it with your palm, which is true to an extent.

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              • hitorikii
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2005
                • 28

                #22
                Am I th eonly one who uses three fingers (right index, middle, third)?

                Could be my tuba background (uses three fingers) but it just feels more natural.

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                • XTTX
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 80

                  #23
                  I used to play piano, that helped me just get the rhythm. Didn't help at all with 4 fingers.


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                  • Rebirth0
                    FFR Originalbro
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 8751

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hitorikii
                    Am I th eonly one who uses three fingers (right index, middle, third)?

                    Could be my tuba background (uses three fingers) but it just feels more natural.
                    That would be called one handed, one handed playing is actually the worst style if you want to get really good. If your lucky, you might get really good at one handed playing (Tank, Kilga, Moogy, Kefit) but its really hard getting good.

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