SM5 timing windows

[i love you]

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also about 3.9 and 3.95 being more stable, the thing with that is, 3.9+ is 3.9 modified to be more stable, offcourse you proably only use the basic gameplay and not look at every single function but a load in 3.9+ is fixed, but new bugs have appeared, but they arnt really crashing bugs like the ones in 3.95, like almost everything in 3.95 is bugged, the noteskin part is bugged, like look at the orbular bug, the theming side is bugged, like look at nicks glass theme, go play around with every menu, you will get a crash not because of the theme but because of the stableness of 3.95, and with sm4 cvs its even worse.

Most people nowadays who plays stepmania really only care about two things in stepmania and that is gameplay and the sm editor. From what I can see, I think the editor on SM5 is A LOT better then any other version of Stepmania (I use it a lot however some prefer DDREAM or an older version of the editor) however the gameplay just does not feel the same on SM5 then it does when I play 3.9 or 3.95. SM5 overall IS better then any other version since it does support a lot of new features and has a lot of bug fixes however the gameplay is utter garbage and needs some changes. Until the gameplay changes (and maybe the theme), I (and probably a lot of other people) will not be fully switching to SM5.

[aj187]

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the gameplay is utter garbage and needs some changes.

Could you give a list of the changes you feel are needed, with specifics? It'd be nice to have something to work towards.

(If this has to do with the bar on the bottom of the gameplay screen, have you tried enabling the Gameplay Footer option in Theme Options?)

[Jousway]

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same as AJ said, if you find any problem, or want any changes to the game, please write it here, and it will be looked at, also there is the bug tracker http://ssc.ajworld.net/sm-ssc/bugtra..._view_page.php :3

[ca25nada]

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People at smoc have been complaining about this for a while.

It's very similar to this one on the bugtracker, only difference is that the lifebar keeps increasing.

http://ssc.ajworld.net/sm-ssc/bugtracker/view.php?id=264

1. enter nonstop mode on life 6/7 (0.33/0.25)
2. play any course including autogened ones
3. hit any note and watch as your life climb up even when you miss/hit mines, etc.

here's a vid:

[dAnceguy117]

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^ what a wacky glitch! Haha.

Until the gameplay changes (and maybe the theme), I (and probably a lot of other people) will not be fully switching to SM5.

Why not just grab a different theme?

[ddr_f4n]

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SM5 is almost a lot better. The editor itself is still a little buggy though, as the BPM stop edits (manual edits with F9/F10) doesn't work, and the timing cut/paste still doesn't work, though it would REALLY be nice if it did, especially when copy/pasta bpm gimmicks over the entire chart.

Though it would also be nice to modify attack mods in-editor more, not just what the mods are, but speed of the animation of each mod and percentage/how much of the mod itself instead of still going into the .ssc editor to manually edit ourselves.

PS: Fakes are GREAT for warps, as now you can have arrows in between warps and still get 100%, which was the problem before (in SM/ITG you couldn't get 100% since you'd skip the arrows)

[Jousway]

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PS: Fakes are GREAT for warps, as now you can have arrows in between warps and still get 100%, which was the problem before (in SM/ITG you couldn't get 100% since you'd skip the arrows)

basicly what I really love about that

[aj187]

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IMO the editor needs a complete re-do, but that's for post-StepMania 5.0 (or an external program).

ca25nada: thanks for bringing that bug up, it will be looked into for SM5 alpha 2.

[ddr_f4n]

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I'm not using alpha 1 right now atm because there's a serious graphics problem with stepfile graphics which I have no idea if it's been fixed for a version 1a yet. They said they'd go over and re-release it, but since if it hasn't yet then I'm sticking to Preview 4 until this gets fixed.

[Jousway]

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I'm not using alpha 1 right now atm because there's a serious graphics problem with stepfile graphics which I have no idea if it's been fixed for a version 1a yet. They said they'd go over and re-release it, but since if it hasn't yet then I'm sticking to Preview 4 until this gets fixed.

what you mean the thing were normaly sm checks the files in the simfile folder because to many people are to lazy to define the place were the banner and background are in the .sm file, because its soooooooooooo hard to do, yeah that already got fixed shortly after because it was a bug and because everyone was complaining about it

[dAnceguy117]

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what you mean the thing were normaly sm checks the files in the simfile folder because to many people are to lazy to define the place were the banner and background are in the .sm file, because its soooooooooooo hard to do, yeah that already got fixed shortly after because it was a bug and because everyone was complaining about it

haha sweet. To be fair, many people may not know that the locations are to be included in the .sm file. Several years back I never opened any .sm files in a text editor and had no technical understanding of how everything worked. Having StepMania locate the bg and banner automatically is a pretty big deal in terms of user friendliness.

[ddr_f4n]

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what you mean the thing were normaly sm checks the files in the simfile folder because to many people are to lazy to define the place were the banner and background are in the .sm file, because its soooooooooooo hard to do, yeah that already got fixed shortly after because it was a bug and because everyone was complaining about it

Actually even with the correct names the .sm/.ssc files still wouldn't load the graphics properly for some reason. But if it's fixed then I'll give another try again then :V

[Jousway]

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haha sweet. To be fair, many people may not know that the locations are to be included in the .sm file. Several years back I never opened any .sm files in a text editor and had no technical understanding of how everything worked. Having StepMania locate the bg and banner automatically is a pretty big deal in terms of user friendliness.

you got people like me tough, that step while having the .sm open in notepad cuz bpm changes and stuff is a load easier to change in notepad than in sm

[TheNoSoMan]

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(If this has to do with the bar on the bottom of the gameplay screen, have you tried enabling the Gameplay Footer option in Theme Options?)

Is this feature theme-specific? Do you have to add it to the theme in order for it to be there?

[aj187]

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It's in the default theme. You'd have to add it to other themes, since they likely won't have it.

(moonlight has a similar option, Screen Cover, in its Theme Customization section)