How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

I haven't thought about putting effort in my profile for literal years

With the global chat it was a banging social platform back in 2007/2008 but somewhere I kind of just forgot it was a thing I could customize

I do have like 99K credits I wonder if that would buy me a decent profile

[icontrolyourworld]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

Let's explore the topic of what is acceptable levels of "lewd". Please be advised I will be using terms that may be not safe for work. It would be fantastic if a mod could clarify these points so that there is as close to no level of ambiguity as possible.

Let's start with these 2 terms since devonin mentioned them:
Nudity/Nude/Naked
From Dictionary.com
naked or unclothed, as a person or the body.
without the usual coverings, furnishings, etc.; bare: a nude stretch of land laid waste by brush fires.
(of a photograph, painting, statue, etc.) being or prominently displaying a representation of the nude human figure.

Porn/Pornographic
From Dictionary.com
pornography; sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like, produced to elicit sexual arousal (often used attributively)
television shows, articles, photographs, etc., thought to cater to an excessive, irresistible desire for or interest in something

These terms straight from dictionary.com don't seem to convey explicitly the answers we are looking for.
I'm going to presume 5 main topics related to what may be considered under most societal norms unacceptable nudity: Boobs, Butts, Penis, Vagina, Body fluid. If there is a specific area that should be addressed that I miss, please explain.
There are a varying level of Nudity, this is the big grey area that needs to be addressed I feel.

Please attribute the following degree of nudity that is acceptable to the respective category of anatomy.
Varying degrees of nudity involved:
1) Completely covered by clothing, with no see through. This includes clothing designed to intentionally cover this specific part of the body. (if you don't include this as acceptable it would be assumed that any picture involving said anatomy/fluid is unacceptable even when fully clothed.)
2) Completely covered by tight clothing, but allows this specific area to be accentuated. An example could be tight underwear that you can clearly understand is the outline of a nipple or erect/flacid penis or outline of vagina.
3) Completely covered but can see through. Example would be a wet T-Shirt that you can clearly see nipples and areola. There's obviously the most grey area with this, if you select this option please explain how opaque this must be to be acceptable.
4) Exact coverage. Example would include a circular piece of tape that covers nipples, and only nipples.
5) Body paint. While it's not clothing, it's not necesarily naked.
6) Is exposed but Censored by a black bar
7) Is exposed but Censored by pixelation
8) Assuming the subject could be in frame of the picture; Completely exposed but blocked by environmental factors, such as a lens glare, plant, or other prop or accessory.
9) Completely exposed, and acceptable.
10) Please add your own comment here if neccesary.

Female boobs:
1) breast (including under, side, and in between but not including areola/nipples)
2) chest wall (in between boobs)
3) areola (any pink bit)
4) nipples

Female vagina:
1) Clitoral hood
2) Clitoris
3) labium minorum (synonym: labium minus)
4) Urethral opening
5) Vaginal opening
6) Perineum

Butts:
1) Gluteus (the fat part ya sit on)
1.5) Butt crack line (it's not really anatomy, similar to cleavage for boobs, it's just the area where a sharp division or a split occur, including this as it actually covers the next 2 in most cases)
2) External anal sphincter
3) Anus

Male Penis:
1) Scrotum
2) Shaft flaccid
3) Shaft erect
4) Glans
5) Perineum

Male chest:
1) breast (including under, side, and in between but not including areola/nipples)
2) chest wall
3) areola (any pink bit)
4) nipples

Bodily fluid:
1) Lactation
2) Urine
3) Semen
4) Saliva

A few questions:

If an image includes pubic hair, or is shaven but is the same area, what is the verdict on one or the other?

If neccesary, please explain how much area surrounding a specific bit of anatomy including to what degree of coverage including opacity should be included in the case that exact coverage is not enough.

Is a completely nude human figure (including anthropomorphic of course) that does not include detailed areola, nipples, vagina, penis, or body fluid acceptable? Examples include mannequins, and other artwork that depicts a naked human figure such as Adam from Nier Automata, or Ruto (from hyrule warriors or The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time).
Another example would be a not totally finished drawing that has the outline of a human form but not the details filled in for the "nude" anatomy.

That's all I have for Nudity, I think this is a good starting point. Onward to pornography!

I feel it is nearly impossible to fully address what constitutes pornography, for example this entire post if for some reason you derive some sort of arousal from; even though it's entirely text based, I suppose could be considered pornographic in nature, even though my intention is not to elicit an aroused state. Since pornoraphy can be derived from; to a massive extent by text, audio, video/picture, I doubt I could be the first person to accurately define what is pornography, use your best judgement. I'd say the following however is pornographic in nature, depictions of sexual intercourse, including vaginal, anal, or oral, or expulsion of bodily fluid from genitals, or the act of masturbation with intent to sustain arousal or climax. Some could probably argue very convincingly that that is not pornographic though, for example "it's art" and you have a whole mess. Good luck with this bit!

My opinion personally is you can have completely exposed human anatomy either by art or real life, and it's not pornographic in nature, for example classical arts, statues, or even modern depictions can easily be nude but not pornographic.
Creation of Adam (1512) by Michelangelo is nude but not pornographic
Most of Sakimichan's catalog of fantastic artwork in most cases includes nude but not sexually elicit/pornogphic material as well.

I do use my best judgement when it comes to this topic, as I too have an obsession with lewd materials (I also have an obsession for riding in the grey area of rules, as often times I like to gain an understanding of what a certain rule or definition really means). FFR is super reasonable I feel on the topic, but not the best for sharing explicit materials as there are rules against it, and for obvious reasons, not everyone here is 18+.

[V-Ormix]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

yes

I was actually gonna drop a link to ur profile

[LOVESTOSPLOOGE452]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

yes

I'd like to be 10x more lewd than you good sir.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

I'd like to be 10x more lewd than you good sir.

On what scale; 10x doesnt mean much here unless you describe it.

[gold stinger]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

Lactation

On a separate note but relative to lewd stuff, we have music in-game that contains strong language, but if I submit something like let's say, Milky Christmas, would that get rejected for being too lewd?

Because that song is an experience, and exists. Thanks for reminding me of it.

[devonin]

Let's explore the topic of what is acceptable levels of "lewd". Please be advised I will be using terms that may be not safe for work. It would be fantastic if a mod could clarify these points so that there is as close to no level of ambiguity as possible.

We have no interest or intention to set down hard and fast objective lines because even trying to give objective lines, a lot of art and imagery is very subjectively in and around lines without being clearly on one side or the other of a line we drew for you.

This is going to have to be one of those "we know it when we see it" things, coupled with "If you think you should check whether something is too far, assume it is too far"

On a separate note but relative to lewd stuff, we have music in-game that contains strong language, but if I submit something like let's say, Milky Christmas, would that get rejected for being too lewd?

Because that song is an experience, and exists. Thanks for reminding me of it.

There are several songs I want removed from the game because of the lyrics and/or title. Unfortunately, the administration don't agree with me that, for example, our game should not contain a song called "(Gonna Rape) Kylie"

The thing to remember is that this community isn't one where you need to consider if something is 18+ or not, it's one where you need to consider if something is 13+ or not.

[ositzxz369]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

If accepted, that "Milky Christmas" song wouldn't be as lewd as Slashmaid.

[Shikari]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

how lewd can you go

[XelNya]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

The thing to remember is that this community isn't one where you need to consider if something is 18+ or not, it's one where you need to consider if something is 13+ or not.

In the particular example you gave, I'd be for changing that to asterisks but I can't think of another song in game that's worth doing anything more to. I'd ONLY concede that particular example.

Though it long feels like we're past the site being PG13. See Icyworld's profile for example. That would not fly in a live adapted movie with a PG13 rating.

If this was truly a PG13 site, I would not get away with the word "fuck" as much as I do. (Which I actually see the way we handle words at least... in theory... in most places... most of the time, as pretty good.)

[ULTIMEGA]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

Just no hand holding. That's a bannable offense.

Tits in a dress (covered up) showing a lot of cleavage is still okay.

[Funnygurl555]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

what's a milky christmas :O

[devonin]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

In the particular example you gave, I'd be for changing that to asterisks but I can't think of another song in game that's worth doing anything more to. I'd ONLY concede that particular example.

We also are technically hosting the FFRMania database, and there are some equally bad things in there I'd like to be renamed or removed.

Without a comprehensive look at every song, that's the only title I know of that I'd censor. There are a bunch of songs I'd like to either mark with an explicit lyrics warning, or remove if we can't mark them because of the lyrical content too.

Though it long feels like we're past the site being PG13. See Icyworld's profile for example. That would not fly in a live adapted movie with a PG13 rating.

A user profile is definitely a much more hidden thing than a song title or song lyrics. We've banned plenty of stuff in profiles and avatars for being over the line. A couple elements of icy's profile are pretty close to the edge, but none of them, to me, actually cross it.

If this was truly a PG13 site, I would not get away with the word "fuck" as much as I do. (Which I actually see the way we handle words at least... in theory... in most places... most of the time, as pretty good.)

A PG-13 movie is allowed one fuck. So when you consider how much dialogue is in a standard 90 minute film, compared to how many words of text are on this site, we're probably below average in rate of Fucks said.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

Our rules are specifically against nudity and pornography.

On this note: Legal guidelines for what constitutes this is a good idea of where to start. Also keep the following in mind:

Offenses Not Tied Directly to Infractions (The type and level of infraction for these offenses will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis as they are more types of thing than actual offenses themselves)
- Quoting inappropriate material after it has been deleted. (The infraction for this offense will be equal to the infraction for the original post. Quote flaming, infracted for flaming yourself. Quote porn, infracted for posting porn)
- Bait staff through the exploiting of loopholes in the rules. (If you think it is clever to do a bunch of things common sense tells you that you shouldn't, just because no rule says you can't, that is itself actionable. This is basically official notice that sticking your hand in our face and saying 'not touching you! not touching you!' is not going to end the way you want it to.)

This has nothing to do with subjective views on what is "lewd" or not. One of the benefits of keeping this somewhat vague is so someone doesn't try to pull off a "HAHA!" -- think of how there is a catch-all of unsportsmanlike conduct for behavior that's not covered in the rule book for a sport.

[DaBackpack]

Re: How "LEWD" is one's profile allowed to be?

I'm not a mod and my opinion shouldn't be weighed against theirs but here's an anecdote that might help you

A few years ago I made a thread where I analyzed shitty erotic computer games and wrote reviews for them. I asked the mods for permission and the concept was OK except for a few caveats:

*Don't use any pornographic images or videos in the thread
*Don't link to a website with pornographic material (using names is fine, no URLs)
*No illegal discussion

Granted most of the controversial content was in text and not in image so maybe it's not a great parallel. I'd imagine "no nips, no vagoo" is a good heuristic but you should probably ask the mods to examine a specific layout instead of asking for general advice.

EDIT:

anime tiddies from the spank bank folder in my grandma's dropbox account? (P.S Asking for a friend.)

I know there's a story behind this and I want to hear it