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  • ledwix
    Giant Pi Operator
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 2878

    #1

    Mirror Mode

    I looked for a thread about this but couldn't find one. I would love if FFR had a mirror mode similar to that of SM. This would balance songs that are right-hand-biased or left-hand-biased. Though it might be really hard to include, I'm just throwing it out as an idea. It would help out a lot.
  • blindreper1179
    Vice President Of TGB
    • Jun 2006
    • 5900

    #2
    Re: Mirror Mode

    yeah,

    it would be cool.

    i know not the same, but in SM i can pass some songs with mirror on because everything is right handed.
    and i'm not.
    it would be cool.

    and it's not like it changes the score or anything. so, why not.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
    absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
    Originally posted by choof
    It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
    Originally posted by choof
    whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
    Originally posted by Celirra
    I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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    • V3T_ddrultramix3
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2007
      • 307

      #3
      Re: Mirror Mode

      Yea, my PA would greatly improve if something like that was added. I support 100%.


      , now!

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      • Fantasticone
        D7 Elite Keymasher
        • Aug 2006
        • 6003

        #4
        Re: Mirror Mode

        Mirror mode = EHHS FC.

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        • ledwix
          Giant Pi Operator
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 2878

          #5
          Re: Mirror Mode

          Mirror Mode = VB AAA easy

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          • Engler
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2007
            • 2340

            #6
            Re: Mirror Mode

            Fanta and LX have a point.

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            • opop123456
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2006
              • 5

              #7
              Re: Mirror Mode

              yeah mirror mode would be hard but then it would make the game so much easier, im with you

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              • ShoesBetch
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2007
                • 159

                #8
                Re: Mirror Mode

                I <3 Mirror Mode
                I'm all for that suggestion Ledwix


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                • arelik
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 184

                  #9
                  Re: Mirror Mode

                  Mirror mode = lol FotBB long trill

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                  • ledwix
                    Giant Pi Operator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2878

                    #10
                    Re: Mirror Mode

                    seriously, this game needs mirror mode. we already have speedmods and practically took out avmisses, along with autofail. these give us ENORMOUS advantages over people that played with avmisses and screenshrink until mid '07. mirror mode would just be another noteworthy commodity.

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                    • -Yukari-
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 930

                      #11
                      Re: Mirror Mode

                      I always wondered why Stepmania even offered this selection. Mirror mode seems like total garbage to me. It's like "Hey, I can't perform this left-handed trill because I'm right handed, so, even though plenty of right-handed people who have trouble with it got good enough to do it anyway, I'm not going to." Just seems unfair. Stepfiles are written the way they are for a reason, changing them around to your advantage seems cheap to me.

                      No offense, Ledwix, or anybody else, but this doesn't seem fair =/

                      EDIT: Before "well what about people who got good without speed mods / with avmisses" even comes up XD Speed mods aren't changing the structure of the level in any way, you are still playing it exactly the same. Every note is in the same place, etc. As for avmiss, =/
                      Originally posted by ryanisadouche
                      So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.

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                      • Sprite-
                        HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 7316

                        #12
                        Re: Mirror Mode

                        +1 support

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                        • blindreper1179
                          Vice President Of TGB
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 5900

                          #13
                          Re: Mirror Mode

                          Originally posted by -Yukari-
                          I always wondered why Stepmania even offered this selection. Mirror mode seems like total garbage to me. It's like "Hey, I can't perform this left-handed trill because I'm right handed, so, even though plenty of right-handed people who have trouble with it got good enough to do it anyway, I'm not going to." Just seems unfair. Stepfiles are written the way they are for a reason, changing them around to your advantage seems cheap to me.

                          No offense, Ledwix, or anybody else, but this doesn't seem fair =/

                          EDIT: Before "well what about people who got good without speed mods / with avmisses" even comes up XD Speed mods aren't changing the structure of the level in any way, you are still playing it exactly the same. Every note is in the same place, etc. As for avmiss, =/
                          and it's not fair either, that when making a simfile, people think of themselves. most of the population is right handed and it's not fair to leftys. so, mirror it for leftys would be like making it the original stepfile we all play. we don't need it though, since we kick butt with right handed stuff anyways, i would just like to use it.
                          Originally posted by thesunfan
                          absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
                          Originally posted by choof
                          It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
                          Originally posted by choof
                          whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
                          Originally posted by Celirra
                          I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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                          • RoastedNoob
                            FFR Player
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 620

                            #14
                            Re: Mirror Mode

                            Mirror mode would be insanely easy to add to this game. It would take hardly any time, and would allow another way of practicing. Maybe even changing the Mod on the high score list to Mirror on/off.

                            - FFR's First and Only CCC -

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                            • ledwix
                              Giant Pi Operator
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2878

                              #15
                              Re: Mirror Mode

                              Mirror mode is largely based on getting rid of bad habits, though, Yukari. It's not as much of a way to overcome certain hand-biased steps. If we had mirror mode I could AAA EHHS easily, but with the current system, and with the habits I've developed from playing FFR, I would seriously avmiss EVERY SINGLE TIME at the 24ths. It's time for FFR to allow getting rid of bad habits to read a clean set of steps as an option.

                              After all, the same logic you used can be applied quite conveniently to screenshrinking vs. speedmods. "Oh, these players have worked hard for the last 2 years trying to perfect the art of screenshrinking, but I don't want to have to overcome that; therefore, I'll ask for speedmods to alleviate the entire process." Since everyone seems to have welcomed speedmods as the art of screenshrinking has died, why not implement mirror mode? They're both parts of SM already.

                              I realized you already addressed speedmods, but lack of avmisses completely overrides the most fundamental difference between SM and FFR. It's an ENORMOUS change, much larger than any mirror mode would be.
                              Last edited by ledwix; 02-2-2008, 01:12 PM.

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