The "15" difficulty scale thread

[emulord]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

i like the 1-100 with named groupings. Regardless of what we do, difficulties should still have names so people can casually see what it is and talk about it.
1-100 for random song selection would be easy to implement for the song select box thing. I could say (on the beta engine) "All 70-75 songs I havnt AAAd" and adjust it up as I get better or something.

[Velocity]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

I'd rather do 1-100, but I can't seem to read what you people want, of course people aren't going to agree on one specific thing since everyone has different thoughts which makes deciding what to change it too even harder.

I don't even like difficulty numbers since there very subjective depending on each users ability to play and the patterns in the files they face. Words are more general.

But in the end it really is you guys choice, just don't expect the changes to come all at once, this site is like a maze you have to do blind.


(Do I always sound like an asshole?)

[One Winged Angel]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

Yeah I should add that I'm only a fan of the 1-100 system if 15 or so titles are still retained using that system.

I mean, let's face it, unless we have A THOUSAND different titles, there's still going to be low X difficulty songs and high X difficulty songs (the debate's really never going to stop). But I agree that it's incredibly helpful to 'group' songs of the same difficulty together. So we might as well evaluate everything on a large scale (i.e. 1-100) and then set boundary numbers for each new difficulty title. Seems like the best of both worlds imo.

[jprox445]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

1 - Easy
2 - Standard
3 - Moderate
4 - Tricky
5 - Difficult
6 - Very Difficult
7 - Extremly Difficult
8 - Challenging
9 - Very Challenging
10 - Extremly Challenging
11 - Brutal
12 - Very Brutal
13 - Extremly Brutal
14 - For Master's Only
15 - for Guru's Only
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Screw the For Stepman Only Catagory, Define Stepman?
Hopefully this makes more sence

Also I agree, vROFL doesn't need a rating because it was only a prank file to begin with.
EDIT: if you really wanna put a difficulty on vROFL, put it as FLO (For Legend's Only) because only people in the top 100 would even be able to attempt to play it anyways.

[Emithith]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

I'd rather do 1-100, but I can't seem to read what you people want, of course people aren't going to agree on one specific thing since everyone has different thoughts which makes deciding what to change it too even harder.

I don't even like difficulty numbers since there very subjective depending on each users ability to play and the patterns in the files they face. Words are more general.

But in the end it really is you guys choice, just don't expect the changes to come all at once, this site is like a maze you have to do blind.


(Do I always sound like an asshole?)

VELOCITY'S GUN GET BANNED FOR SWEAR FILTER EVADING. Wait, wat

Also, you don't sound like an asshole to me, atleast not most of the time.




To solve the problem of "not knowing what we want"; Open a poll

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

Open a poll

Done

[jimerax]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

Nice addition.

[jprox445]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

explain 1-100 with 15 groupings to me?

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

Concerning 1-100 and 15 groupings:

Yeah I should add that I'm only a fan of the 1-100 system if 15 or so titles are still retained using that system.

I mean, let's face it, unless we have A THOUSAND different titles, there's still going to be low X difficulty songs and high X difficulty songs (the debate's really never going to stop). But I agree that it's incredibly helpful to 'group' songs of the same difficulty together. So we might as well evaluate everything on a large scale (i.e. 1-100) and then set boundary numbers for each new difficulty title. Seems like the best of both worlds imo.

Basically, evaluating individual files and then putting boundaries afterwards.

[Raining Nails]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

I'm definitely in favor of the 15-level difficulty as I think the game has expanded to the point where it is warranted.

The split in difficulties (as others have pointed out) have become really obvious on some of the higher levels. For example - it is mind-blowing to me that both Randomness Reactor III and Ambient Angels are 10s - the former of which I have AAA'd and the latter I am lucky to get 50 goods!

I know skills levels are a bit is subjective, but adding a few levels will increase accuracy in this case

[i love you]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

While Velocity said he'd only do 1-100, that really isn't a good idea. There will be a crapload of bitching just like there is now - general grouping is way better so you don't wind up with so much subjectivity

I think you misread my post. I was referring to the 1-100 system failing not the 1-15 one.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

Uh, that's what I said. 1-15 provides a general range rather than asking people "is this a 61 or 62?"

[qqwref]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

This just in: FFR difficulties are now essentially meaningless.

I'm no longer interested in helping out on this project. At least, not unless someone else gets control over setting difficulties on FFR's charts.

[stargroup100]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

It's not even that the difficulty issue has been getting ignored. I doubt 15 difficulties will solve the problem. I was asking Velo about the chance of an automated system for difficulty ratings sorta like TS has to kinda eliminate the "subjectivemanias" and it would go off scoring ability. He said if someone wrote him a nice formula he'd consider it.

I already have an algorithm

[Reincarnate]

Re: The "15" difficulty scale thread

lol this is exactly the sort of thing i said would happen unless you had an adjusting scale system for difficulties based on how well people do on a file and the skill level of the players who generally get said scores