Broken.

[who_cares973]

Re: Broken.

im pretty sure a lot of those 400 unlocked most of them are alts or hacked

[Nightfirecat]

Re: Broken.

what about sync'ing? or an option to put colors on?

They do sync some songs, and one great example is GGC - it used to be all blue, but then they synced, and got rid of 2-framers (back when av-misses still existed), and gave it colors also.

[MetalAtlas]

Re: Broken.

whats wrong with having a token that only the best can unlock - nothing. i don't say no to the concept of oni

the average player (the one who's better than exactly 50% of people on ffr) - can't even pass fmo's. i daresay only say the top 1-2% of people even hold an fmo fc. stop thinking that thats what i'm saying (that the average player should get oni, or even close)

get it through your heads that I am not trying to say that oni should be made easier to unlock - I am saying that it should not get incrementally harder as time goes by simply because more people have unlocked oni via that song - which is what is happening.

so basically im an elite plyer- im constently thrown into intermediate- probably because im not good enough for getting sdgsand stuff- but i can FC fmos and some fgos- basically- when i get oni ill know that im the elite of ffr and then i can run my mouth- they mey 'run' ffr becuase they reached the top and are looking for new goals and ways to help the rest of the ffr community instead of bitching about being bored- all these gurus and elite players contribute probably the most to the site- cause theyve played everything there is and they know what to improve

[ninjaKIWI]

Re: Broken.

It's not getting incrementally harder, it's stayed at about the same difficulty to get it, that's why the update happened, to keep it the same....
I wish people would get their shit straight before they complained.

[qqwref]

Re: Broken.

It's not getting incrementally harder, it's stayed at about the same difficulty to get it, that's why the update happened, to keep it the same....
I wish people would get their shit straight before they complained.

Uh, right, but it's equal in difficulty to getting Oni before the avmiss fix. And I'm not even sure of that... IgroMAN posted a Balloon Fever AAA with the avmiss engine and he still doesn't have a low-FMO AAA (let alone one that will unlock Oni these days). I guess he'd say it's harder now than it was right before the avmiss fix?

Anyway, not counting the few times I played easiest-level songs in high school, I started playing FFR a little over a year ago... my first FFR screenshot is from 2009/5/28. The avmiss bug had already been fixed by then. Thus Oni is only staying at the same difficulty for people who have been around longer than that, and there are a lot of players here who have been around for a year or less. So, if you think about it, in the last year Oni has never been harder than it is right now - Oni was "easy" for a whole year. I can understand returning a token to its proper difficulty soon after it was compromised (so to speak) but if it's been this way for a year everyone has essentially gotten used to it being this way by now. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a hundred people got Oni during the year when it was "easy"... and now, to even compare to them, we have to AAA something from a selection of much, much harder songs.

My point is that making Oni difficult again might make the oldest players happy, but for a lot of us this feels like an excuse to be really mean to those of us who weren't skilled enough to get Oni before the window closed... especially those of us who were, say, one good off multiple times. I know that Oni meant the best of the best when it was released, but because it was easier for a year it has LONG since stopped meaning that. Making Oni harder is not going to suddenly make it an elite token again, unless it's taken away from the hundreds of people who don't have a mid-high FMO AAA. It's not fair to make us have to compete with a much easier accomplishment to get the same token.

[who_cares973]

Re: Broken.

like i said dont worries guys is on the way

[MetalAtlas]

Re: Broken.

Uh, right, but it's equal in difficulty to getting Oni before the avmiss fix. And I'm not even sure of that... IgroMAN posted a Balloon Fever AAA with the avmiss engine and he still doesn't have a low-FMO AAA (let alone one that will unlock Oni these days). I guess he'd say it's harder now than it was right before the avmiss fix?

Anyway, not counting the few times I played easiest-level songs in high school, I started playing FFR a little over a year ago... my first FFR screenshot is from 2009/5/28. The avmiss bug had already been fixed by then. Thus Oni is only staying at the same difficulty for people who have been around longer than that, and there are a lot of players here who have been around for a year or less. So, if you think about it, in the last year Oni has never been harder than it is right now - Oni was "easy" for a whole year. I can understand returning a token to its proper difficulty soon after it was compromised (so to speak) but if it's been this way for a year everyone has essentially gotten used to it being this way by now. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a hundred people got Oni during the year when it was "easy"... and now, to even compare to them, we have to AAA something from a selection of much, much harder songs.

My point is that making Oni difficult again might make the oldest players happy, but for a lot of us this feels like an excuse to be really mean to those of us who weren't skilled enough to get Oni before the window closed... especially those of us who were, say, one good off multiple times. I know that Oni meant the best of the best when it was released, but because it was easier for a year it has LONG since stopped meaning that. Making Oni harder is not going to suddenly make it an elite token again, unless it's taken away from the hundreds of people who don't have a mid-high FMO AAA. It's not fair to make us have to compete with a much easier accomplishment to get the same token.

well the rest of them should be like oni with an asterisk- to signify the aquization of the token during the time before it was properly fixed- then when you accomplish a score on the proper oni song- the asterisk goes away

[qqwref]

Re: Broken.

Does it have 212bpm 24th stream?

Oh yeah, and ninjaKIWI:
"EDIT: Also, Skill Token #48 has been updated to reflect the difficulty changes from the avmiss fix. There are now 15 FMO songs that will unlock Otaku Speedvibe [Oni]: Novo Mundo, Lawn Wake 4, Lawn Wake 1, None Would Escape, Divine Suicide of K, Melonman’s OP, K8107, Southern Cross, Choprite, Midnight Dragon, Silence, Rottel-da-Station, Epidermis, AIM Anthem, and Hajnal. These are the current 15 songs that are difficulty 76-78 on our 99 point scale. We will be updating the Otaku [Heavy] ST as well down the road."
I guess Tass thought these songs were appropriate. But hey, what does he know? He can't even AAA FGOs. Clearly not an elite player.

[EAGAMES]

Re: Broken.

No, but stuff that's much harder. >=]

[who_cares973]

Re: Broken.

24th stream wouldnt even make sense since it isnt a bs file rofl


32nd trills :twisted:

[Seefu Sefirosu]

Re: Broken.

Y'know what?

**** all of you people who simply think because something's easy for you, it's easy for all.

Look at Sprite! Oh, yeah, we non-elites have over 100 'easy' tokens!


Yeah, AAA Spontaneous Hydroxide.

I can't ****ing do that. I know a lot of people that play who can't.

Because I'm sorry, it's hard for us.

I apologize I don't pour my heart and soul into FFR, so let me grovel on your feet, please.

I'm just tired of this attitude of "get better, at our pace, or get out".

Not everyone is amazing.

Edit: And for clarification: Yeah, I can FC a lot of songs. AAAing anything, even Free Space, is a whole 'nother story. AAAing something, for me, is like shutting down a Mac in 1998. No ****ing way it'll happen, with a few exceptions.

[Haimerej]

Re: Broken.

I'm just like Seefu, my FC and PA skills are pretty good, but I've NEVER AAA'd anything above difficulty 2. Heck, yesterday, I even sightread FC'd Beethoven Virus, and then I blackflagged Activity Unbroken immediately afterwards. Oni isn't just for the 'elite', they're for the guys who have been around for forever. People who are fairly new to the game, like me, will probably never get to oni, especially with the new requirements.