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  • -Yukari-
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2008
    • 930

    #1

    Clear some stuff up

    Hi, in this thread, I will address all the things people find suspicious about me, and explain why it is they are that way. I will provide direct quotes and the links to their posts that people have asked me, as well as some statements I have made in the past. If you have anything to ask me, post it in here and I'll address it as well.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    Nice 4 try AAA on hellbeat.

    Also nice first try 9 goods on Takecore of yourself, First try AAA of Max Forever, First try AAA of Rondo V2.
    This comes up all the time, and it's not rocket science figuring it out; the main thing I do is hit F5 at the end of a bad play. This refrshes the page and DOES NOT RECORD THE SCORE. Try it yourself, you will see no result from that play.

    Also, a very obvious thing to do is that I delete replays. Not all, but replays that I don't think serve any value in my list. This is at my discretion. I have saved avmiss replays, so if you'd like to view them, click the links below. Just for your information, I have been playing since 1/3/08.

    Beethoven Virus (1/16/08)
    Pretty Green Onions (1/17/08)
    K8107 (1/18/08)

    Unfortunately, basing things on how many replays I have on my list is ineffective anyway; I could go to HELLBEAT, purposely avmiss 300 games on the trills / jumps / any 4-framers or the 2-framer. In the middle of the bad games, I could purposely get some good ones, but not quite AAA. Then, I could finally AAA. Then look at me, I worked my way up "visibly". However, I will say now that I am skipping the high game count and refreshing.

    To close this section, I will address each song individually.

    HELLBEAT AAA: To be explained later.
    1st try Zephon unlock: Refreshed games.
    1st try AAA MAX Forever: Deleted first playback (1-1-0-0).
    1st try Rondo v2: Actual sightread AAA for Devonin's tournament.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    Flight of the Bumblebee 848 - 14 - 0 - 0 - 1 862 1,332,230 1/23/08
    Vertex BETA 1,650 - 105 - 0 - 0 - 2 1,755 2,691,335 1/16/08

    It looks like you actually have some speed, Learn to PA.
    If this is regarding the 105 Good FC on Vertex BETA, yes, I purposely did that when I first joined because I was tired of getting avmisses and didn't have enough skill in avoiding avmisses back then to still hit Perfects, give me a 200 BPM stream in Stepmania, and you will probably see a AAA. Why you brought Flight of the Bumblebee in, I don't know, that game is much more recent and has very good PA for such a hard trill song.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    Even if you cancel out of a game ffr records it.
    Nowhere have I said I cancel out of games, check my post history. I am not considering cancelling out either.

    Originally posted by -Yukari-
    The truth is that I easily played 300+ games of HELLBEAT. May sound like an exaggeration, but I spent 5 hours unlocking the token on HELLBEAT. A game of HELLBEAT maxes at one minute, but it's rare that I finish a game; most times I lose it in the first trill, or the jumps right afterwards =/ So, you can easily take out 300 games from those 5 hours considering most games are only about 5 seconds long, and then refrshing the page, which takes about another 30 seconds (don't make fun of me for that, I like keeping a record of good games).

    EDIT: I'm trying to be conservative, I feel it was more like 8-10 hours and 500 games. Anyway, I'll have to learn to ignore DarkManticore manually
    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    Looking at your replays though its not possible for you to have played as long as you said you have. You've only played 182 games of ffr
    You obviously didn't read and continued calling me a hacker with little evidence. See the sections above on refrshing and deleting playbacks please, or even the text I bolded where I specifically said I refreshed, BEFORE you made this statement.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    If you say you came over from SM, and were really good, You would AAA VB, Silence, K8107. I would understand If you got Oni on those.

    What I don't understand is how you say you "I came over from SM", and proceed to know everything about avemisses and the quirks of FFR.
    For a long-time member of FFR, you don't seem to know much about avmissing yourself, go back and try to easily AAA Vertex BETA without avmissing and see how silly that statement is. Vertex BETA is over 3 minutes of avmissing, HELLBEAT is 1, much more feasible a task for a newcomer. As for K8107, see the above replay.

    As for Silence, I still can't actually even FC Silence. If I were a hacker, rest assured, I would have it easily AAAed by now. You can say I am purposely not FCing it just to look like I'm not a hacker, but by saying that you have targetted the entire FFR community, so good luck with that. If I were a hacker, I would have nearly everything I have played AAAed. Some things I have not even FCed.

    As for knowing everything about avmisses, newbies are encouraged to read stickies, and I did. Have a glance yourself now at this sticky in particular, and read the section about jacks:

    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...78&postcount=1

    Also, I talked with [HectoGtzMX] on AIM way back when I joined and he tried to give me advice on how to avoid avmisses, I'm sure he could corroborate that (please do not harass him about it though, he is a good friend). Any intelligent human being can read that, listen to some good advice and, with 3 WEEKS of practice, learn how to avoid them better. And even still I am not as good as you FFR vets.

    Originally posted by SulferDragon
    Seriously, whether or not you played SM doesn't mean anything. FFR and SM are totally different games. It takes awhile to get used to FFR after playing SM for so long. I would know, because I played SM for months before I played FFR.
    Well, I played SM for almost a year before playing FFR, and your statement is obviously blatantly incorrect because somebody with a year of SM experience is obviously going to have all the speed and technique brought over from that year of playing. SM and FFR are not that inherently different at all, the gameplay remains much the same. The framerate difference is a bit shocking at first, but easy to adjust to, avmisses are different (explained earlier).

    Originally posted by SulferDragon
    Ok, you only have 125 gameplays and you already have every Skill Token, except Otaku Oni... You have 3 Goods on Turbulence, three VC AAA's, and a bunch of other crap.
    3 Goods on Turbulence was pretty lucky (happened 1/17/08), maybe if I tried Turbulence again, I actually couldn't even do that. Surely any good player knows about the "unrepeatable fluke score", maybe 3 Goods Turbulence is mine.

    Originally posted by SulferDragon
    I'm suspicious because I've been good friends with people who have turned out to be hackers. They were cool people, they were polite, the were intelligent, and I believed them... but they just turned out to be liars.
    Other people's actions do not define me.

    Originally posted by StepmaniaGod6969
    dude you've only been a member for not even a month...it takes time to get used to ffr...i came over from stepmania and i wa sreally good at sm so i know it takes time
    While I sort of addressed this one already, I will clarify by saying that I have plenty of 1-3 Good runs on songs from back when hitting arrows on earlier Perfect frames was a foreign idea to me. Here are some levelranks from levels I did a long time ago with 1-3 Goods I still have not cleared.

    54 4 Story of Snowman and Sunshine Girl 828,975*
    94 9 Dazzling Soul 1,551,275*
    99 10 {Rose} 2,016,275*
    105 9 Delirium 1,670,625*
    107 8 Troglodytic Epica 2,296,275*
    131 8 Mercury Lamp 1,625,675*
    148 9 Robotix 1,273,825*
    159 9 {Blaze} 2,126,050*
    160 10 Synaxis Symphony 1,093,475*
    163 8 Palindrome 677,055*
    191 8 Incognito 1,168,425*
    220 8 Youkoso! Himitsu no suzume bara ya! 1,121,650*
    229 8 {Red Alert} 768,250*
    248 9 ESC - Super Version 1,464,200*
    324 6 Prototypical 1,308,650*
    451 5 Below The Surface 514,325*

    Yes..... that is a Below The Surface blackflag you see there. Yes, I got it because I was probably hitting on the last Perfect frame, and maybe my timing went off a little, and I hit one frame late instead. Happens even in Stepmania. Since then, I have had some nice sightread AAAs, like Tambourin Chinois, and Rondo Alla Turca V2, but I have had my mistakes too. For all I know, I am not done learning yet.

    Originally posted by ryanisadouche
    Personally for me, the fact that you have a blackflag on Below the Surface completely confirms you're BS. Someone who can AAA VB, Hellbeat, etc. should VERY easily AAA Below the Surface. You want us to believe you'll go out of your way again and again to prevent a SDG on a FMO song from registering, but you were too lazy to be bothered to f5 and AAA this song? Some of the songs you have AAA'd are EXPONENTIALLY harder then Below the Surface, you should easily have AAA'd this within 2 tries.
    Good point, sorry I didn't explain the Below The Surface blackflag better.

    Made In Innocent
    Get a FC with 9 or less goods on Below the Surface, Save Me, and Parachute in a row to unlock Made In Innocent

    639 people have unlocked skill token 68
    So, that's why I didn't bother to refresh Below The Surface, because I wasn't convinced enough that AAAing a stupid Standard difficulty song when I was really just trying to unlock a token was worth it, especially because the blackflag was hundreds of notes into the song and I didn't want to play it again. I wouldn't have even played that song if it weren't for that token, actually, so the score didn't matter to me.

    Originally posted by ryanisadouche
    Rethink what you're doing with your life and try again.
    This coming from a guy with "douche" in his username, haha.

    Originally posted by damanwithdaskillz
    VB makes sense, it is not 3 minutes of avmisses, those actually rarely occur in VB, VB is a 4 frame song, with Hellbeat having twice as many 4 framers, some 3 framers, and one 2 framer, making VB wayyyyy easier...
    Actually, that's incorrect, HELLBEAT has no 3-framers at all, here is the official information from jimerax's R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 thread.

    Originally posted by jimerax
    Vertex BETA (1755 Notes / BPM 200) {0,0,0,0,?}
    HELLBEAT (504 Notes / BPM 200)[*] {0,0,1,0,?}

    {0-framers,1-framers,2-framers,3-framers,4-framers} - FMO/FGO songs only, approximate number
    As you can see, both levels have enough 4-framers so that counting them is tough, the thing with Vertex BETA is that it is 1755 notes, while HELLBEAT is a small 504. I think it is easy to say that, in all of its 200 BPM streams, Vertex BETA has tons more 4-framers, and during streams, of all things. HELLBEAT's are pretty simple jumps while avoiding avmisses, anybody who has unlocked The Five can get used to avoiding those.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    How about you actually try to play this game, Instead of Hacking your way along?
    I am surprised moderators are allowed to be so openly accusatory and rude with absolutely no solid evidence (as shown here). I suggest the staff choose more carefully who this community's role-models / good examples will be.

    Originally posted by DarkManticoreX2
    Words don't really prove anything.

    Typing up an essay doesn't prove you're right either.
    This coming from the guy that started all this by typing a bunch of words that supposedly proved I was a hacker. Very nice.

    Why did I bother to type all this out? Because, unlike some players, and most hackers, I am not just interested in playing the game, I am interested in being a part of the community. I completely understand that people would be suspicious of a newcomer that unlocks Oni, but those suspicions should be kept to yourselves until evidence shows that I am really hacking, rather than being openly rude immediately, using extremely loose things such as low game count / 1 replay of a certain song in replay list. In the future, people may want to be a little more patient with these things. Compare me to the people who are hacking billions of points on games, and AAAing 6 minute songs 6 times in 1 minute; you can't. Focus on nailing them, and if I am hacking, the admins will know about it, without you wailing on the message board about something you don't really know anything about.

    If you have any questions, post here (assuming this thread isn't locked). I will keep this in my signature, until people get the picture. If it means anything, here is a quote from Tass up to the point (and including) my sightread AAA on Rondo V2:

    Originally posted by Tasselfoot
    nothing popped on our hack detections.
    Last edited by -Yukari-; 01-28-2008, 03:00 AM.
    Originally posted by ryanisadouche
    So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.
  • TK_yesillkillubitchboez
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2006
    • 240

    #2
    Re: Clear some stuff up

    Don't worry I'm not suspicious about you.

    Like Games? Go here! join the forums! Now in Gold phase!



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    • -Yukari-
      FFR Player
      • Jan 2008
      • 930

      #3
      Re: Clear some stuff up

      Thank you, good to know. I don't mean to make it look like everyone's against me, but for those with their silly "proof", here's where they are wrong.
      Originally posted by ryanisadouche
      So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.

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      • smartdude1212
        2 is poo
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2005
        • 6687

        #4
        Re: Clear some stuff up

        This seriously sounds like Rubix.

        Wait...

        Kongregate chat...

        Captain Underpants...

        Farther back in the past...

        January...

        Could it be?

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        • phe0nixblade
          Praise the sun mofo
          • Sep 2005
          • 4281

          #5
          Re: Clear some stuff up

          Originally posted by smartdude1212
          This seriously sounds like Rubix.

          Wait...

          Kongregate chat...

          Captain Underpants...

          Farther back in the past...

          January...

          Could it be?
          Nah if it was Rubix he'd have like 200 AAA's already.

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          • EDEdDNEdDYFaN
            FFR Veteran
            • May 2003
            • 2118

            #6
            Re: Clear some stuff up

            This post brings out the small bit of love that I have leftover for FFR Players. Keep on shining Yukari .

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            • Tasselfoot
              Retired BOSS
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2003
              • 25185

              #7
              Re: Clear some stuff up

              fyi, Manti is not a staff member. not sure where you got that from.
              RIP

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              • Sprite-
                HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 7316

                #8
                Re: Clear some stuff up

                She was referring to his modship of TWG subforum.

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                • Tasselfoot
                  Retired BOSS
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 25185

                  #9
                  Re: Clear some stuff up

                  oh. lol. that doesn't count.
                  RIP

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                  • EAGAMES
                    Y0FACE!
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4931

                    #10
                    Re: Clear some stuff up

                    Lol, most of the comments were from Manti.
                    Anywho, just keep it up -Yukari-. You know that you're not BS, so don't let it bother you. If you are a hacker, which I doubt, then I don't know what to say. Just keep it up.
                    Removed a .gif image so your total signature size isn't well over 1MB. Keep this in mind for the future.
                    5th Official FFR Tournament Scores (Division 5)
                    Round 1: Novo Mundo (AAA)
                    Round 2: 4 Chord Touhou (AAA)
                    Round 3: October (1.0.0.1)
                    Round 4: Silly Symphony (1.0.0.0)
                    Round 5: Hardkore Atomic (4.0.0.1)
                    Round 6: Blue Rose (2.0.0.0)
                    Round 7: La Dump (Eliminated for being lazy.)
                    Originally posted by smartdude1212
                    EA will wander into his house with twenty minutes remaining in the round, load up FFR, realize he needs to ****, go to do so, discover he's hungry, whip up a gourmet meal, return to FFR with five minutes to go, play la camp once, and missflag on the 2154th arrow because scythe of 13 is watching him

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                    • Kekeb
                      davai
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 2765

                      #11
                      Re: Clear some stuff up

                      Honestly, why would you bother with this? Just ignore anyone who thinks you are BS and move on.

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                      • DayMan951
                        yfwdbwdsb
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2255

                        #12
                        Re: Clear some stuff up

                        Why don't you just stop refreshing your page?

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                        • -Yukari-
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 930

                          #13
                          Re: Clear some stuff up

                          Originally posted by DayMan951
                          Why don't you just stop refreshing your page?
                          Because it's how I like to play

                          Originally posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN
                          This post brings out the small bit of love that I have leftover for FFR Players. Keep on shining Yukari .


                          Originally posted by Kekeb
                          Honestly, why would you bother with this?
                          Originally posted by -Yukari-
                          Why did I bother to type all this out? Because, unlike some players, and most hackers, I am not just interested in playing the game, I am interested in being a part of the community.
                          Being called a hacker bothers me personally.

                          Originally posted by EAGAMES
                          Anywho, just keep it up -Yukari-. You know that you're not BS, so don't let it bother you. If you are a hacker, which I doubt, then I don't know what to say. Just keep it up.
                          Will keep on playing
                          Originally posted by ryanisadouche
                          So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.

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                          • Rubin0
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            Re: Clear some stuff up

                            Keep on rocking Yukari. It's great to have a skilled female player out there.
                            The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                            • StepmaniaGod6969
                              3 Fingers
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1015

                              #15
                              Re: Clear some stuff up

                              dude you've only been a member for not even a month...it takes time to get used to ffr...i came over from stepmania and i wa sreally good at sm so i know it takes time
                              Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                              use your cock. unless it isn't long enough. and then i feel sorry for you.



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