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  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #16
    Re: one-handing?

    You need all perfects for a AAA. AAA's will be rank 1, and the maximum possible score on a song.

    There being no set way to play FFR, there is no such thing as a "handicapped" style of playing. You are equally free to play any way you want, so your accomplishments should be viewed objectively as scores.

    It shouldn't matter one bit whether you play spread, one hand, two hands, whatever. A good score is a good score, and a bad one is a bad one.

    Saying "But I went out of my way to make it harder on myself" doesn't really make doing mediocre any less mediocre except as a stunt score. Playing some FGO song with dizzy on 3.0 makes for something you can call a stunt score playing under a handicap. If you consider playing one-handed to be a handicap, you should really just stop playing one-handed.

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    • TheSeventhSign
      FFR Veteran
      • Feb 2004
      • 525

      #17
      Re: one-handing?

      Originally posted by Zageron
      Eh... Yeah you just sucked.
      >.>
      Zageron, why are you taking other people's posts aside in a thread that has nothing to do with how much somebody other than the topic creator sucks?

      And I'd like to see you AAA Amefuri Koneko, Mr. Onehander. How about SDG on 20031023 while you're at it, kthx. THAT was the whole point of that post, yet you somehow managed to point out the part where you thought I sucked? By the way, nice best AAA there, Mr. Mocha Ocean, I AAAed Horizon one handed, so you don't get to talk about other people sucking anymore, Mr. 5000 average rank.

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      • devonin
        Very Grave Indeed
        Event Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Apr 2004
        • 10120

        #18
        Re: one-handing?

        Why are you flaming him because he took a shot at you? Better to simply let his comment stand so he can look foolish instead of rising to the occasion and sinking to a lower level.

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        • TheSeventhSign
          FFR Veteran
          • Feb 2004
          • 525

          #19
          Re: one-handing?

          Wow, you replied fast, I was about to edit my post and say something to you, but I'll just say it here.

          Originally posted by devonin
          There being no set way to play FFR, there is no such thing as a "handicapped" style of playing. You are equally free to play any way you want, so your accomplishments should be viewed objectively as scores.

          It shouldn't matter one bit whether you play spread, one hand, two hands, whatever. A good score is a good score, and a bad one is a bad one.

          Saying "But I went out of my way to make it harder on myself" doesn't really make doing mediocre any less mediocre except as a stunt score. Playing some FGO song with dizzy on 3.0 makes for something you can call a stunt score playing under a handicap. If you consider playing one-handed to be a handicap, you should really just stop playing one-handed.
          SIGGED. You rule.

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          • Flowenol
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2005
            • 25

            #20
            Re: one-handing?

            i didnt quite mean to make this a flaming thread o.0 but yeah. i can see where youre coming from devon. its true that i have the ability to play two handed but i deny it. so i guess it isnt quite a handicapped. however you cant deny that it is tougher to play with one hand. thats what i was going for >.<

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            • ledwix
              Giant Pi Operator
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 2878

              #21
              Re: one-handing?

              basically, if you think passing all the songs is amazing, you can be very good one-handed. if you think AAA'ing all the songs up to mid-masters-only level is amazing, you can play two-handed. whatever floats your vessel.

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              • devonin
                Very Grave Indeed
                Event Staff
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2004
                • 10120

                #22
                Re: one-handing?

                No no, I get exactly where you're coming from, and I understand that people who feel they are choosing to play in a more difficult way want to think there is a seperate set of skill levels for people who play that way, so you can be "The best one-hander" even if you're "The 5,000th best actual player of the game"

                But virtually all one-handers I've seen on this site have made threads at one time or another saying something that boils down to:

                "I know this isn't actually a good score, but I play one-handed, and we all know that one-handed is harder, so even though this isn't a good score, you should still shower me with adulation"

                I started off playing one-handed. I saw all the threads and discussions about the reasons why spread makes many of the harder songs substantially easier, tried it out, and lo and behold, my skill improved -dramatically-

                This is a game, a fun game. I don't find the idea of saying "I know that 40% of the songs I'll never get a good score on, and I cramp my hand up trying to do well on them, but dammit, if I get a reasonably good score this way, people will think of it as a better score" to be much fun.

                I'd rather be able to play the songs, enjoy the music, and score well.

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                • Flowenol
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 25

                  #23
                  Re: one-handing?

                  lol that makes perfect sense. and yeah its semi that reason. but i just think its cool to be able to move my hand that quickly. and i know that if i switch to 'spread' ill become oh so much better. but i want to be sure that ive reached my limit with one hand. i can FC a very difficult song. and that alone is enough to make me happy, i just want to see if i can FC a challenging song. however after that i dont know what ima do cause im pretty sure theres no way in hell that im going to be able to FC a master or guru song. so maybe when i hit there i'll try spread.

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                  • Rubin0
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1276

                    #24
                    Re: one-handing?

                    I recently went through the same thing. I didn't know if I wanted to switch to spread, so I tried it. I hated it. One handed is definately a major handicap, but it is the way that I like to play. Anyway, I rather become an impressive one handed player one day than sette as a mediocre spread.
                    The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                    • devonin
                      Very Grave Indeed
                      Event Staff
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10120

                      #25
                      Re: one-handing?

                      I rather become an impressive one handed player one day than sette as a mediocre spread.
                      My point is: These are both mediocre.

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                      • Rubin0
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1276

                        #26
                        Re: one-handing?

                        You have your standards. I have mine.
                        The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                        • Zageron
                          Zageron E. Tazaterra
                          FFR Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6592

                          #27
                          Re: one-handing?

                          XD Ouch. I got owned.... T.T

                          Edit: But seriously dude. I was only agreeing with you
                          "After 3 years of playing with one hand, I couldn't even hardly FC a Difficult song (and maybe I just sucked)."
                          No need to actually go out of your way to find everything about me that is bad and throw it back at me.
                          (Oh for ur information I've FC a ****load of songs. ohburn! <.< /sarcasm)

                          I don't flame, put down, or try to make people feel back in any way. I had a ****load enough of that on the last forum I was at. If you think I'm flaming, or putting you down, Your 100% wrong. (<.<. . .>.<) I've never put anyone down in my life. (Maybe 5 or 6 but thats it.)

                          "Don't worry, bombom bom bom bombom bom bom bombom bom bom bombom be happeh!"
                          Last edited by Zageron; 10-9-2007, 06:05 PM.

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                          • Flowenol
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 25

                            #28
                            Re: one-handing?

                            what devonin is trying to say is that in the end of the day both mediocre spread players and one handed players get the same score based on how good they are, no matter how hard either tries.

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                            • ~HentaiXXX~
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2955

                              #29
                              Re: one-handing?

                              Originally posted by TheSeventhSign
                              Zageron, why are you taking other people's posts aside in a thread that has nothing to do with how much somebody other than the topic creator sucks?

                              And I'd like to see you AAA Amefuri Koneko, Mr. Onehander. How about SDG on 20031023 while you're at it, kthx. THAT was the whole point of that post, yet you somehow managed to point out the part where you thought I sucked? By the way, nice best AAA there, Mr. Mocha Ocean, I AAAed Horizon one handed, so you don't get to talk about other people sucking anymore, Mr. 5000 average rank.
                              Hehe, I AAA'd Horizon too, and I've only been playing for a year, so...yea...you did kind of suck...

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                              • DarkManticoreX2
                                TWG Overlord
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 7355

                                #30
                                Re: one-handing?

                                Example of possible one handed scores EX. These were some of my best one-handed scores.

                                This score right here is probably the best one-handed AAA to date.

                                and other things






                                if your interested, theres more in here

                                I don't want to overtake the thread, But I wanted to make a point, It is possible to be really good one handed, but it takes a ton of practice, a flat keyboard so you can slide, and possibly some form of lubrication.

                                Oh and whoever was being an asshole about getting an sdg on 20031023, I had 13-0-0-4 one handed. It is possible. But devonin is right, the best one-handed players, will only achieve the skill of the average spread player.

                                You get a ****load of cool point for playing one-handed (and doing it well), but that doesn't take goods off the final score.
                                Last edited by DarkManticoreX2; 10-9-2007, 08:17 PM.
                                AAA's = 800

                                Originally posted by V
                                Manti, I apologize for insulting you. Let the record show that I am a prickass douche, and not only that, but that I am a terrible player.

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