Triilllsssss.

[dsadsadsa]

I suck at them. It seems near impossible to hit 16th trills with my 2 left fingers. They simply don't move that fast. Any tips? ty.

[Shashakiro]

Re: Triilllsssss.

Practice on a table. There really isn't any secret.

[dsadsadsa]

Re: Triilllsssss.

I practice alot in school but it just doesn't get any better =/. Bleh.
Maybe I should use my right index on 2 for the left sided trills. Wouldn't that be fun to master -_-.

/thanks.

[dawg4321]

Re: Triilllsssss.

congrats shash. You just joined the 10 billion club. And you're the only member.

[Jammer325]

Re: Triilllsssss.

congrats shash. You just joined the 10 billion club. And you're the only member.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=48420
XD. Anyway, Shash is right (of course), just keep practicing them.

[Shadow41]

Re: Triilllsssss.

lift some 5 pound weights with ur left finger. make that finger buff lol if thats even possible...

[Jammer325]

Re: Triilllsssss.

It's your forearm that would need to be exercised, which has the control of the fingers. (I probably messed something up in what I siad there)

[Cj_leonine]

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just use a different damn finger.

[xjohnieboyx]

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I've had (still do) problems with left handed trills. I do exactly what Shash said earlier. I whack a table with my index/middle. There's definitely improvement because i can hit basically every left handed trill but i still need to work on the PA of the left hand :-/

[Dronak]

Re: Triilllsssss.

Since I play one-handed, I don't use my left fingers. However, one thing that has helped me a bit for fast trills is pretending they're like an offset/out-of-sync double. Thinking of it this way means I don't go after them as two separate notes; I go after them by hitting the two keys at almost the same time, purposely delaying the second hit a little bit from the first. It's what I usually end up doing on songs that actually have out-of-sync doubles. I doubt this is the best way to do it, but I usually only do it on really fast parts where I can see the separate notes, but can't move my two fingers fast enough to specifically hit one arrow then the other arrow. I find it much easier to hit two notes very close together that way, almost like playing grace notes on a piano (if you know what that is).

Apart from that, practice. You may need some more strength in your fingers, hand, or arm. The more you practice the movements you have trouble with, the more strength and stamina you should build up. Then it will become easier to do those moves.

I hope this is of some help.

[dore]

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That's a bad habit to get into, Dronak... I use the mash on a table/leg/ass/computer/floor technique. Also memorizing where they are helps.

[Dronak]

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I already said it's probably not the best way to do it. However, I don't consider that mashing, if that's what you were implying (I'm not sure). To me, mashing is pounding away on the keys hoping/praying you hit enough arrows to stay alive. That's not what I'm doing. I'm using a very specific technique to hit two notes very close together. It happens to be a lot easier for me to hit two notes very close together by treating them like a grace note in music and one main note than as two completely separate notes. They are separate, and they end up that way, but thinking of them as a grace note and one main note instead of two main notes makes it much easier for me to hit both of them in a very fast trill. And that's only where I use it, very fast trills where I can read the pattern, but not move my fingers separately fast enough to get them. By using this grace note and main note idea, I tend to move my hand more than just my fingers, which also makes it a bit easier to hit them both.

And yes, memorizing the patterns helps. At least you should start to remember where major changes are once you play the song often enough. If you have trouble at a particular point, you'll probably remember that, too, and know to watch out for it when it comes up.

[xjohnieboyx]

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When i know what's coming in a song that i can't do, my mind will purposely make me not do it correctly. It's phsychological, in my case, because I miss it every time. I tend to NOT think about the song at all and then do it, and I do better =P.

[Tark]

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Dronak, dore isn't talking about mashing in the song, dore is talking about practicing trills on the table. I'm not sure what this grace note thing is, either, but I'm sure that you'll be doing trills correctly in time. They're one of the harder techniques to master.

And yeah, I have the same problem as johnie. I find certain patterns in certain songs very hard to do. Every time I know they're coming, I think to myself "****, this is where I lose my combo", and so I do (a few examples are: the trills in Max Forever; the gallops in NeoMAX; the jacks in Turbulence). I find that the less I worry about them, and the more I concentrate on just hitting the notes that are in front of me at the time, the better I do.

Oh, screen cutting more might help, too.

[dore]

Re: Triilllsssss.

Every time I know they're coming, I think to myself "****, this is where I lose my combo", and so I do (a few examples are: the trills in Max Forever; the gallops in NeoMAX; the jacks in Turbulence).

When I read this, I was like "WTF is that me talking?" ;p Except it's the left handed trills in NeoMax and the jacks... as much as I hate gallops I can usually get by halfway decent...