Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

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  • QueenAshy
    Banned
    • Sep 2017
    • 606

    #1

    Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

    I feel the one right now has way too many hard patterns, maybe make a noob friendly version that’s like lv. 46 or something.

    Plz.
  • ositzxz369
    Venetian Snares stepper
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2008
    • 535

    #2
    Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

    Be the change you wish to see in the world. By that, I mean - you should be the one to create MANIERA v2 or nerfed versions of any other FFR songs that you like.

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    • TheSaxRunner05
      The Doctor
      • Apr 2006
      • 6144

      #3
      Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

      It's true - people have stepped harder or easier versions of charts before and had them accepted. Maybe you should take up the task of creating "Maniera [Light]"


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      • ilikexd
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Apr 2006
        • 3207

        #4
        Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

        In order for it to be level 46 it would need to be ignoring sounds that are very obviously there, like stepping 16th notes as 8ths which would be ridiculous. Changing the patterns wouldn't get it anywhere near that.

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        • AutotelicBrown
          Under the scarlet moon
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2014
          • 923

          #5
          Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

          How about an easier Freedom Dive. Thanks in advance.
          Play my files

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          • Celirra
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2015
            • 749

            #6
            Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

            There should be a chart for every song at every level, it's silly that there's no level 12 version of rato!
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            • komochii
              Banned
              • May 2018
              • 224

              #7
              Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

              They should make hard versions of every chart since every level 100+ song is glitchy breakcore

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              • XelNya
                [Nobody liked that.]
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 3368

                #8
                Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                Originally posted by AutotelicBrown
                How about an easier Freedom Dive. Thanks in advance.
                I made one, it got rejected. I'd fix it but i've since lost the file.
                Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun beep

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                • rushyrulz
                  Digital Dancing!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 12985

                  #9
                  Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                  I, for one, would like to avoid Canon in WHEE syndrome as much as possible.


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                  • DDMythicalB3ast
                    FFR Player
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                    you could always use downrates, i guess

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                    • QueenAshy
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 606

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ositzxz369
                      Be the change you wish to see in the world. By that, I mean - you should be the one to create MANIERA v2 or nerfed versions of any other FFR songs that you like.
                      I could slow down and slightly reinstrument MANIERA to make it easier to play and still follow the music. It’s not out of the realm of possibility, it just takes forever

                      Originally posted by ilikexd
                      In order for it to be level 46 it would need to be ignoring sounds that are very obviously there, like stepping 16th notes as 8ths which would be ridiculous. Changing the patterns wouldn't get it anywhere near that.
                      Umm… the osu!mania and bms charts of the same song have diffs as low as easy.

                      Originally posted by TheSaxRunner05
                      It's true - people have stepped harder or easier versions of charts before and had them accepted. Maybe you should take up the task of creating "Maniera [Light]"
                      It would probably suck, but I’ll try

                      Originally posted by DDMythicalB3ast
                      you could always use downrates, i guess
                      Then I don’t get AA efficiency

                      Originally posted by komochii
                      They should make hard versions of every chart since every level 100+ song is glitchy breakcore
                      I could map the entire because maybe album. That would be > lv. 100 and like 50 minutes long

                      Originally posted by Celirra
                      There should be a chart for every song at every level, it's silly that there's no level 12 version of rato!
                      Lol, try to make a brutal version of counting snow.

                      You can’t do it for every song, lol.
                      Last edited by bmah; 07-1-2018, 03:40 PM. Reason: please edit your post and put multiple quotes in one post. There's a forum tool to do that.

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                      • Celirra
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 749

                        #12
                        Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                        Though there are exceptions, FFR's chart creation process isn't intrinsically focused around making a chart for X difficulty; rather, it's about making a chart that actually fits the music with a proper layering or stepping structure, and if a different difficulty is desired then typically a different song is chosen. Where games like IIDX have depth for given songs with multiple difficulties, FFR is relatively shallow for songs but have a larger breadth, covering a wider range of songs; this is a fairly defined characteristic at this point, and one that works well based on how the community works. As well, FFR's chart submission process is much more arduous and selective than the notion of anyone making a chart for similar games like Stepmania and Osu.

                        To be blunt, if you want a different difficulty of a song, I recommend you reach out to, or play, games such as Osu!Mania or Stepmania.

                        I'm going to echo my good friend ilikexd here, who if you didn't notice actually stepped the version of MANIERA currently in the game, because chances are he knows more about what makes for a good and proper chart, and one that should be in FFR, than a large majority of the community, definitely including both myself and you.

                        I don't think a lower level chart for it is a good idea. The light/heavy splits that are actually in the game currently are for good reason, and are fringe cases, and this definitely would not be one of those cases.
                        Last edited by Celirra; 07-1-2018, 09:19 AM.
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                        • xXOpkillerXx
                          Forever OP
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4207

                          #13
                          Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                          Learn to use the Multiquote button ffs

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                          • QueenAshy
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 606

                            #14
                            Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                            Originally posted by Celirra
                            Though there are exceptions, FFR's chart creation process isn't intrinsically focused around making a chart for X difficulty; rather, it's about making a chart that actually fits the music with a proper layering or stepping structure, and if a different difficulty is desired then typically a different song is chosen. Where games like IIDX have depth for given songs with multiple difficulties, FFR is relatively shallow for songs but have a larger breadth, covering a wider range of songs; this is a fairly defined characteristic at this point, and one that works well based on how the community works. As well, FFR's chart submission process is much more arduous and selective than the notion of anyone making a chart for similar games like Stepmania and Osu.

                            To be blunt, if you want a different difficulty of a song, I recommend you reach out to, or play, games such as Osu!Mania or Stepmania.

                            I'm going to echo my good friend ilikexd here, who if you didn't notice actually stepped the version of MANIERA currently in the game, because chances are he knows more about what makes for a good and proper chart, and one that should be in FFR, than a large majority of the community, definitely including both myself and you.

                            I don't think a lower level chart for it is a good idea. The light/heavy splits that are actually in the game currently are for good reason, and are fringe cases, and this definitely would not be one of those cases.
                            Tried playing osu!mania, community is cancer tho

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                            • YoshL
                              Celestial Harbor
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 6156

                              #15
                              Re: Nerfed MANIERA chart should be created

                              an easier version of maniera could be created perfectly fine lmfao


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