Tier Points

[Hakulyte]

Re: Tier Points

No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.

The idea was to mix this up with FFR Rank to decide if a player makes the cut or not.

Top 15 scores is probably better for that tho.

[XelNya]

Re: Tier Points

Do you want people who can aaa 100s but dont want to waste their time aaaing files that they can aaa on 1.5 with their eyes closed to be put in the same division as a dude who can only aaa 50s but actually farms for points?

From a spot of immense bias: yes. I do. I want my files to get played, even if they're not enjoyed. I want the most counter-intuitive systems in this site ripped out and never brought back: Tier Points & AntiPA requirements on Skill Tokens. I'd gut Velo / Legacy engines. I'd take away the tokens given to players who place well in officials and make them either skill tokens or achievement tokens.

Playing the game > Being good at it for me, and in the best interest of the site IMHO.

If you choose to play top-end files, your levelranks reflect it well enough to place. You're not gonna marathon all the easy shit and sandbag, and if you do, trust me you'll get caught. You guys who skip the easy stuff aren't like that (obviously.)

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

No because that requires playing 7.4 million files which are trivial for higher level players, the level system is just objectively better.

Uhh....thats the whole point of the game? Who cares if youre too good to play lower level files, play them anyways. Its fun...

Before i had to stop playing i was mid D6, i still played every song that came out, even it it was a 5. Why? Its the point of the game.... I could be D7 and id still play every song.

[Walrusizer]

Re: Tier Points

you guys are completely missing my point. this started because he was asking if tier points should be used to place people in divisions in tournaments. tier points do not represent skill. tournament divisions are supposed to represent skill. therefore, tier points should not be used to determine tournament division placements (if a more accurate system exists at least, which it does).

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

They absolutely determine skill. I only have 1k tier points, haku has what 1200ish. Hes way better than me....

I see what you mean in a way because not everyone plays every song so not everyone will have as many tier points as they should have/can potentially get. I think this should be fixed if possible. He only suggested it though.

Edit: Literally though, the game is about playing songs. So if everyone realized that and just played the damn songs, easy or not it would actually work out much better. If youre good enough to AAA 90s then you should be aaaing every song up until there(if possible for you) and by doing so you would have a shitton of tier points. Meaning the tier point theory would work. Being lazy obviously messes it up a bit.

[Walrusizer]

Re: Tier Points

etienne is way better than all of us and only has 699 tier points. im decentish and only have 414. my entire point is that your skill should not be judged off how many charts you play. aaaing one 100 is way more impressive than aaaing every file below 70, yet the tier points system would rate aaaing every file below 70 as about 8374 times harder.

He only suggested it though.

can suggestions not get replys?

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

lol aaaing a 100 is not more impressive than playing every song below 70 and aaaing.

I'm way more impressed with someone having 1k aaa's than someone who has 400 with a 100 aaa

[Walrusizer]

Re: Tier Points

are you actually serious?????

if you can aaa a 100 then aaaing even fucking 90s is trivial for you. aaaing 70s or below is actually just effortless, it means nothing. it just means you fucking spent a lot of time playing easy shit.

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

Let me break it down for you. Its way more impressive for "player 1" to have 1k aaa's and only have a best aaa of around 70 than "player 2" to have 400 aaas and having a 100 aaa. It means nothing. Yes, im 100% serious.

Edit: LOL the purpose of the game is to play the files.....doesnt matter how good you are.

[Walrusizer]

Re: Tier Points

i 100% understood what you said, how did you think that i didnt? i just think its incredibly stupid and incorrect.

Edit: LOL the purpose of the game is to play the files.....doesnt matter how good you are.

wait what does this have to do with the conversation??? i never said anything about the "purpose of the game". the entire fucking point of what I said involved skill, it doesn't matter if you think one of them isn't going by the "purpose of the game".

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

How does it not have anything to do with the point? The purpose of the game is to play the files, AKA that shows your skill.
If you want a different type of skill, go get all of the skill tokens. Or go AAA all of the older files/synthlight files. Just because you can aaa 100s doesnt make you "good".

Lets break it down for you again. Just because someone can aaa 100s doesnt always mean they can beat players who can only aaa up to 80. Theres different types of files in the game and everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Ive gotten eliminated from every official by players who might not theoretically be better than me, just because i had a weakness in the song. It could totally play to their strengths and they could win.

[Walrusizer]

Re: Tier Points

i never said aaaing 100s make you "good", i said its harder and therefore displays more skill than aaaing everything below 70 (or any arbitrary number below like 90 or even slightly higher).

[Dynam0]

Re: Tier Points

The longer your e-peen is the more creative you get in measuring it. Can confirm it is a fun pastime.

[blindreper1179]

Re: Tier Points

Too much epeen in this thread, please put them away.

[SK8R43]

Re: Tier Points

No thanks.