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  • One Winged Angel
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2007
    • 10837

    #16
    Re: FFR Stats Bomb

    I wish it could be simplified as some combination of those five variables but it just wouldn't work. Difficulty based solely on NPS would ignore patterning completely. Assuming a traditional 'spread' setup, an incredibly dense 1324 wall would force a player to hit two one-handed trills for the duration of the pattern. This would be interpreted (incorrectly) as being equally as difficult as a 1234 or 4321 wall, where the player could synthesize [12] and [34] jumps for the wall while still maintaining perfect accuracy, drastically reducing its difficulty compared to the former. 250bpm 16th one handed trills (or jacks lmao) would be treated the same as 250bpm rolls etc. You'd be forced to include patterning in the difficulty calculation and that makes it a whole lot messier.

    edit: didn't see (or read) Nathtan's post but I'm just going to assume I was ninja'd

    edit2: ninja'd plus some other bits, I like the outward vs inward bit very true
    Last edited by One Winged Angel; 02-1-2015, 04:57 PM.


    Originally posted by ilikexd
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    • Trumpet63
      Mostly Ignored
      • Mar 2011
      • 471

      #17
      Re: FFR Stats Bomb

      I'd also like to point out that some elements of pattern difficulty and endurance are dependent upon what finger setup you're using.

      Loving this thread right now btw.
      2014 October 7th 1:03 AM

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      • TheSaxRunner05
        The Doctor
        • Apr 2006
        • 6144

        #18
        Re: FFR Stats Bomb

        I think there are a lot of 2-3 point difficulty changes that could be made to charts in the 45-65 range, but FFRs difficulty system is pretty close overall.


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        • FF_rules
          FF Veteran
          • May 2006
          • 668

          #19
          Re: FFR Stats Bomb

          Would "Song Difficulty vs Amount of 99%+ scores" be a thing that's already in your system or would you have to add entries for player scores?

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          • Trumpet63
            Mostly Ignored
            • Mar 2011
            • 471

            #20
            Re: FFR Stats Bomb

            Originally posted by FF_rules
            Would "Song Difficulty vs Amount of 99%+ scores" be a thing that's already in your system or would you have to add entries for player scores?
            I don't have the count of 99%+ scores, but I do have count of AAA. Would that suffice? Otherwise, I don't think that information is easily accessible.
            2014 October 7th 1:03 AM

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            • Wayward Vagabond
              Confirmed Heartbreaker
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2012
              • 5866

              #21
              Re: FFR Stats Bomb

              damn i didn't think that i had that many files in game haha. i should step my game up tho. im hella surprised that hi19 doesn't have the most files lmao

              these are so dope fff

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              • rushyrulz
                Digital Dancing!
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 12985

                #22
                Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                where did you even get all this data?
                Last edited by rushyrulz; 02-1-2015, 05:59 PM.


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                • Trumpet63
                  Mostly Ignored
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 471

                  #23
                  Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                  Originally posted by rushyrulz
                  where did you even get all this data?
                  http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats_ext.php
                  http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...s/FFRSongs.php
                  http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=smartdude1212 (For note count)
                  2014 October 7th 1:03 AM

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                  • FF_rules
                    FF Veteran
                    • May 2006
                    • 668

                    #24
                    Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                    Originally posted by Trumpet63
                    I don't have the count of 99%+ scores, but I do have count of AAA. Would that suffice? Otherwise, I don't think that information is easily accessible.
                    I just wanted to know which difficulty of songs are getting the most play currently; 99% was just a filter I guess. We could go with FC/AAA (can we filter by scores after X date?).

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                    • Trumpet63
                      Mostly Ignored
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 471

                      #25
                      Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                      Originally posted by FF_rules
                      I just wanted to know which difficulty of songs are getting the most play currently; 99% was just a filter I guess. We could go with FC/AAA (can we filter by scores after X date?).
                      Nope! All I used was public data on the site, and none of it is time-sensitive other than the dates when each song was released.

                      And I think graphing the count of AAAs vs Difficulty would have pretty predictable results.
                      2014 October 7th 1:03 AM

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                      • One Winged Angel
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                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 10837

                        #26
                        Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                        There'd probably be a small spike in AAAs around the 77-79 mark for people trying a bit harder than usual for their first FGO AAA back with old scale ratings

                        Although with the community being quite a bit smaller than it was in 2007-2009, the results have the potential to look pretty wonky...FMOs like EHHS have over 200 AAAs whereas files of similar difficulty released today may only have 50 or so. I'd be interested in seeing graphs for files released prior to 2010 and files released in 2010 or later, in addition to one for all files.


                        Originally posted by ilikexd
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                        • FF_rules
                          FF Veteran
                          • May 2006
                          • 668

                          #27
                          Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                          Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                          There'd probably be a small spike in AAAs around the 77-79 mark for people trying a bit harder than usual for their first FGO AAA back with old scale ratings

                          Although with the community being quite a bit smaller than it was in 2007-2009, the results have the potential to look pretty wonky...FMOs like EHHS have over 200 AAAs whereas files of similar difficulty released today may only have 50 or so. I'd be interested in seeing graphs for files released prior to 2010 and files released in 2010 or later, in addition to one for all files.
                          Basically my thought's; I'm curious where the newer generation/current generation stand at and using AAA will probably not yield a result I want (though 99% might also be too high). There isn't data for it though so oh well.

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                          • hi19hi19
                            lol happy
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 12194

                            #28
                            Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                            Something is definitely wrong with those stats because I have 118 charts in the game, not 85. (Counting collabs as 1. I have four collabs, so 114 otherwise)

                            Unless you're not counting token files, in which case that says an awful lot about how many of my files are tokens vs everyone else >_>


                            Also this reminds me of qqwref's old thread:
                            http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=121963

                            I wish someone would update that, it had a lot of cool stuff.
                            Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-1-2015, 07:01 PM.


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                            • Wayward Vagabond
                              Confirmed Heartbreaker
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 5866

                              #29
                              Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                              that ffr songs list doesnt have the token songs iirc thats why they arent there.

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                              • hi19hi19
                                lol happy
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 12194

                                #30
                                Re: FFR Stats Bomb

                                Okay that makes sense. More than a quarter of my files are tokens and another 10% are purchased/secret so it makes sense then.

                                Unfortunately that means the other lists will be missing some important files


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