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  • YoshL
    Celestial Harbor
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Aug 2008
    • 6156

    #46
    Re: NPS Graph Generator

    you should like, github this or something


    Originally posted by Charu
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    • blanky!
      Banned
      • Jan 2015
      • 164

      #47
      Re: NPS Graph Generator

      Bump.
      I refuse to let this thread die.

      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      Everything about this new version is so sleek and perfect and I blow my load every time it makes me a graph
      I blow my load every time it makes me a graph, too!
      We must share lots in common.

      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
      i still dont know what a graph is
      Not a mathematics teacher.

      Originally posted by s1rnight
      could there be a way to integrate this into a stepmania skin (scrolled over as you select each song)? that might be very special : p
      It's possible but I don't know anything relating with lua, sorry.

      Originally posted by YoshL
      you should like, github this or something
      Contribute to underscoreman/nps-graph-generator development by creating an account on GitHub.

      merry christmas....wait.




      Coming soon:

      NPS generator ~HIGH DEFINITIoN~


      like, just look at how pixelated this is



      Much better.


      The other thing (not /as/ soon but still pretty soon)

      A faster program that stores pack and simfile chart information with only one method call per information lookup. This includes length, style, difficulties and NPS data for said difficulties.
      The current code is messy even by FFR standards.


      Actually I'll probably just release both at the same time to remove the hassle of having to download both at different times.
      Last edited by blanky!; 02-4-2015, 05:14 PM.

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      • Arch0wl
        Banned
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2002
        • 6344

        #48
        Re: NPS Graph Generator

        Peak playable NPS (not counting bullshit) should be something like ~55 nps for 7-key files and ~75 NPS for 10-key files

        Counting bullshit, ~75+NPS for 7-key and ~110 NPS for 10-key files

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        • stargroup100
          behanjc & me are <3'ers
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Jul 2006
          • 2051

          #49
          Re: NPS Graph Generator

          Expanding onto Arch's post a bit since I've done this research already.

          Because NPS has an asymptotic relationship with BPM, it's pretty safe to say that for any particular key, the maximum possible NPS that a human can possibly achieve is between 16 and 18, which correspond to 240 and and 270 BPM 16th notes respectively, to give you an idea.

          Therefore, for n being the number of keys, you can expect 16n to be a fairly hard limit for NPS for any given section of a song, but it can peak up to 18n or even 20n for about up to a second. (This is because for "hyperfast" jacks, you can time them early to give yourself more window to avoid dropping them.)

          However, keep in mind this a hard physical limit. This limit determines whether or not a chart is possible. If you want it to be even reasonably playable, you're going to sit well under this. For [single] streams to be even meaningful to read and hit, they must sit under 1/2 of this NPS. Including chords is tricky, as dense chords because increasingly more difficult to hit due to naturally weak finger coordination and bracketing.

          Approximate values:
          Code:
          n-key	Reasonable	Difficult/Mashing	Hard limit	Hard limit (<1 sec)
          4	26		50			64		80
          5	32		60			80		96
          6	37		72			95		110
          7	43		84			108		120
          10	60		120			150		160
          edit: whoops wrong formula, fixed
          Last edited by stargroup100; 02-5-2015, 03:56 PM.
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          Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

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          • MinaciousGrace
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2007
            • 4278

            #50
            Re: NPS Graph Generator

            i've managed to take this time to figure out what a graph is

            now how do i extract the information i want from them

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            • blanky!
              Banned
              • Jan 2015
              • 164

              #51
              Re: NPS Graph Generator (not finished yet)

              More progress (aka get hype)



              will most likely be done by next week~
              sorry if you clicked on the thread expecting a release.


              @Arch0wl/stargroup: very interesting analyses!
              Last edited by blanky!; 02-8-2015, 09:43 PM.

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