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  • bluguerrilla
    FFR Player
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2006
    • 3966

    #8521
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    IMO, those aren't jacks (guitar simulation, unless you're ver punk). It really depends on your definition of PR.

    If you want the chart to simulate sheet music and you don't care what the instrument is, whatever, put jacks.

    If you want it to simulate 'playing an instrument' (as if it were close at all) then turn the jacks into trills, unless it's vocals or piano or something honestly 'one handed'.

    It really just ends up depending on what you're going for. As long as it's all self-consistent, it would be hard to argue that one is really better than the other in objective terms.

    The metaphor I usually jump to is painting - simfile and different brushes - layering and PR techniques.

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    • stargroup
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 974

      #8522
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      one thing we need to keep in mind is the definition of pitch relevancy

      pitch relevancy can be super technical or it can be more expressive. because you only have 4 arrows we know absolute pitch relevancy is difficult to do without feeling weird, so sometimes cutting corners is actually better. it all depends on how you do it
      (´・ω・`)

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      • bmah
        shots FIRED
        Profile Moderator
        FFR Simfile Author
        Global Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 8448

        #8523
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        IMO, pitch relevancy shouldn't be thought of in absolute terms in accordance to the four arrows alone - that's too restrictive.

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        • omgitznpv
          cohoooooon
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 6980

          #8524
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          Pitch relevance should be as good as it possibly be, IMO. Simfiles follow the song and, well, "simulate" the song in a way. Just having technical accuracy isn't enough to me, and what I call more to be "musical accuracy" should be present (pitch relevance, layering, fitting patterns, climax theory, etc), as well.
          Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
          What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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          • stargroup
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 974

            #8525
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by omgitznpv
            Pitch relevance should be as good as it possibly be, IMO.
            ahaha this is exactly the problem

            it should be good as in the way the step artist wants it expressed. of course, it has to make sense, but it doesn't have to be as accurate as possible

            unless you meant "good" in a different way
            (´・ω・`)

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            • Knoobish
              alia shawkat
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2006
              • 362

              #8526
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              Freedom Dive is 222bpm npv ya bad.

              And hey I worked on mine a long time too, you can see it being played on youtube by aciiiiiii =O

              PS I don't care if a file is pitch relevant so long as its fun FFR/SM/DDR/(X Music Game) are games not art forms bye.
              Originally posted by THE_MAINFRAME
              actually it is, my parents hate me i have no friends and everyone hates me, fine i will just go kill myself like anyone here gives a fat flying ****, when im dead no one will miss me and no i wont come back because i will be dead. i might as well end it anyway i suck at life i suck at stepmania i cant get a friend...

              im going to go kill myself...most likely you will all celebrate and party because everyone hates me so much.

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              • Tasselfoot
                Retired BOSS
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2003
                • 25185

                #8527
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                fun > anything else. it's just that none of us have the same definition of fun.
                RIP

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                • three17s
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 582

                  #8528
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                  it's just that none of us have the same definition of fun.
                  SM note skin of boobs instead of arrows.
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                  • stargroup100
                    behanjc & me are <3'ers
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 2051

                    #8529
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    yeah but there's different ways to achieve this "fun" factor. there's a reason why certain things are fun. the hard part is figuring out why and fitting it into a file to cater to the most people possible
                    Rhythm Simulation Guide
                    Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

                    Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

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                    • hi19hi19
                      lol happy
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12194

                      #8530
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by EnR
                      The song will make it fun.

                      It's made by Funtastic Power!
                      Wait we have Funtastic Power! permission? I was JUST about to send him an email rofl.


                      Okay then, stepping 300 This is Sparta Extended Remix

                      Originally posted by Knoobish
                      Freedom Dive is 222bpm npv ya bad.
                      It's actually 222.22bpm. My cut of the song is 2:22 long and my file has 2222 arrows.
                      Last edited by hi19hi19; 07-24-2008, 03:16 PM.


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                      • EnR
                        Massive flaming dildos.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8431

                        #8531
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        Wait we have Funtastic Power! permission? I was JUST about to send him an email rofl.


                        Okay then, stepping 300 This is Sparta Extended Remix


                        It's actually 222.22bpm. My cut of the song is 2:22 long and my file has 2222 arrows.
                        22 is my favorite number, so this file must be pure win.

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                        • Tasselfoot
                          Retired BOSS
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 25185

                          #8532
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          hi19, with overkill on the 2s.
                          RIP

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                          • Knoobish
                            alia shawkat
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 362

                            #8533
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Lmao, I didn't feel like including the 222.22, i figured 222 was good enough

                            I think my file has 2191 notes, so GJ on getting to the 2222 mark, lmao
                            Originally posted by THE_MAINFRAME
                            actually it is, my parents hate me i have no friends and everyone hates me, fine i will just go kill myself like anyone here gives a fat flying ****, when im dead no one will miss me and no i wont come back because i will be dead. i might as well end it anyway i suck at life i suck at stepmania i cant get a friend...

                            im going to go kill myself...most likely you will all celebrate and party because everyone hates me so much.

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                            • hi19hi19
                              lol happy
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 12194

                              #8534
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              My file has no hands but more jumpstream. I stepped every note of the melody in the JS. Plus I stepped the 32nds and 16ths to the percussions in the back for the non JS portion, you stepped just the rhythm. So it evened out. I think there's one kinda lame part I want to cut from my file and that would bring it below 2222, but it'd make it a lot more fun.


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                              • Knoobish
                                alia shawkat
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 362

                                #8535
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                I gotcha, yours is probably harder than mine then if you stepped the percussion in those parts, I refrained from stepping that stuff cause I didn't want the file to be TOO dumpy.
                                Originally posted by THE_MAINFRAME
                                actually it is, my parents hate me i have no friends and everyone hates me, fine i will just go kill myself like anyone here gives a fat flying ****, when im dead no one will miss me and no i wont come back because i will be dead. i might as well end it anyway i suck at life i suck at stepmania i cant get a friend...

                                im going to go kill myself...most likely you will all celebrate and party because everyone hates me so much.

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