abortion

[AlbinoLime]

yeah this albino guy is retarded...hes gonna come in here and post his biased crap and denounceing 'prestigous' members of the forums without even backing his own statements...how about i give you 10 anti-abortion sites and you find things made up on each one, and then prove they are made up

You're not a very nice person.....
What statements do I have to back up? Not everything people say is true, even the anti-abortion peoples. The reason they do it is to get more people on thier side. Just write down all the statistics you see, and some just don't add up.

[makaveli121212]

show me...thats all i ask...you said something along the lines of 'every antiablrtion website puts out false information'...you find a website with false information and then you prove to me that its indeed wrong...and make it a decent website too, not something put together by a teenager...

[Laharl]

i would have to disagree with you there. i got outta a speech class last semester in college and one of the major points that was taught was to include points that would be used against your argument, and then prove them wrong. this way members of your audience who initially disagreed with you have nothing to fall back on while your giving your speech added credibility.

That's a little different. What I mean is that you don't go tell people the other side of the argument when they have a point you can't battle down.
Nevermind. We can argue about the semantics of arguing in another thread.

[Anonymous]

Hm. What clarifies what exactly life is in a fetus? Is it not Alive because it seems to lack many well formed limbs? There are those people are born without limbs, but are still considered alive. Is it not alive because it doesn't speak? Well, neither do deaf mutes. It is not alive because it cannot reason properly? Neither can Austistics, but we dont write them off, do we. True, that it is a womans body. But at the same time, I dont believe the baby just magically fell into her lap. She obviously had done something before hand to concieve it, if you know what I mean. So basically, are we trying to give irresponsible people a way out of the consequence of their actions? Have some discipline people.

And moreover, many say, O, Fetuses are just like, things. A bunch of cells, nothing more.
Partial Birth Abortion is the most commonly used technique for abortion. In it, the doctor basically smashes the fetus' head open, and pulls it out piece by peace. Strange thing is, as this is happening, the fetus is clearly seen actually CRINGING in pain, in response the harm inflicted on it.

Last point.
Women who have had abortions have had several hormone related problems after their abortions, some of which involve certain cancers, less of a chance to concieve again, etc.

Basically, I think I would only allow abortion in Rape, and thats a very major only. Preferably, I would think that since there are over 2 million couples waiting for babies to adopt, just have the baby, and give it up for adoption.
A Signature doesnt take that long.

Essentially, what your looking at is for irresponsible people trying to find a way out from the consequences of their actions. Would we let a crook get out of serving jail time for some trivial reason? I dont think. As it was previously said, take some damned responsibility for your actions, and stop trying to find a way out of their consequences.

[COBOL]

MURDER IS WRONG AND DESTROYING SOMETHING BEFORE IT EVEN HAS A CHANCE TO LIVE IS ALSO WRONG.

[cutesaru18]

If a woman consents to having sex, she should be willing to accept the consequences. That includes allowing a child to be born. She should know the risks. If she doesn't, then she's a fool. (BTW- I am also a girl, so don't go jumping all over me about being sexist, k?)

In my opinion, there are only 2 instances in which an abortion should be an option. The first, like the guest had mentioned earlier, was if a woman was raped. If she was raped, then she sure as heck didn't give consent. Even then, she could put the child up for adoption, or an even better idea would be to force the rapist to care for the child. Make that person responsible for their actions. The second instance is if there was absolutely no way either the mother of the child was going to live after birth due to extreme health complications. In that sense, I can understand that there is no reason to let either suffer.

Over all, though, I am pro-life.

[jewpinthethird]

One of my friends (grandiagod) wrote an essay on the subject of abortion...he wanted me to post it for him.

[fusi0n]

that is truly a masterpiece

[ultima301]

Abortion is very wrong. A fetus certainly is a real living organism..it's evident it has some kind of life because of its movements such as arm swinging. From the moment of conception the egg turned zygote has a soul and has life, and begins to divide, increasing the complexity of this life. Since we are all guarenteed the rights to life, liberty and happiness an abortion would be a violation of this right and is therefore illegal and murder.

[fusi0n]

i think stem cell research should be persued. sure it might kill some fetuses, but the things we could discover and cure would make up for those lost many many times.

[jewpinthethird]

From the moment of conception the egg turned zygote has a soul and has life

There is no proof to prove that souls exist. Stick to facts.

[Feuergeist]

That essay tries to hard to bring shock value. The diction isnt all that great either. Its remeniscient of a dude standing on a street corner ranting about how everyone should repent.

[chillywilly]

If you wanna pull the "soul" card, think of it like this...if that person was actually made, then they would be able to reproduce, and they offspring would be able to reproduce. The cycle continues, and soon, there are many people. does this make abortion mass murder? or if the person who had the abortion was a monirity, a genocide?

[perfect_fat]

I hate abortion. I think it's a horrible act but I think that it's neccessary. I wish we didn't have to have abortion, but if somebody is unwilling or unable to care for a child they should not be forced to have it. There are too many people in this world already and forcing a woman to face potential death and give birth to a child that she does not want is not fair and takes away her rights as a human being.

Anyone who says that it is their fault, I feel, is being unsympathetic and is generalizing. Condoms break, vasectomies don't always work, and rape happens.

There are 2 forseeable outcomes. Allow abortions and save lives or ban them and illegal abortions will continue, often resulting in the death of both the mother and the fetus.

[Feuergeist]

Jesus, im reading that essay a bit more closely.

such glaring errors blind me